Posts by konceptual99

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A young girl shouts down a Street preacher

by fulltimestudent in

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got to admit that when some of these screechers get wound up, ive felt the same as the young lady.. http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/11/06/08/34/girl-tells-street-preacher-to-shut-up.

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konceptual99

Got to agree with the posts that deplore the behaviour. Perhaps this little girl is related to BOTR...?

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Is Anthony Morris III gay?

by Calebs Airplane in

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why else would he constantly bring up "gay-inspired" clothing when speaking to such large audiences?.

nothing wrong with being gay.

but he should just come out of the closet already and stop all this stupidity... just saying.. .

konceptual99

No idea if he is gay but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is a c***.

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Anthony Morris The Third

by Yondaime in

when i am3 was going to speak i was ecstatic to hear this lunatic embarass himself.

after the propaganda indoctrination session, a relative asked me what my spiritual goals were, i told em i want to become a servant before i turn 23 so i could get laid.

lmfao.

konceptual99

"man enough"....

so it's all about testosterone fueled, billy big bollocks machismo now? Elders not just being assertive but bullying the congregation into submission?

Morris really is a c***.

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Zone Visit: An Announcement That Will "Test Your Faith"

by breakfast of champions in

this is the scuttlebutt in one of the "bethel congregations" by us.. no details as to exactly what this "faith-testing" announcement might be.. anyone else hear any of this pre-zone visit hype?.

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konceptual99

Some of the comments from jwtalk...

Just got home after eating after branch visit. AMAZING! I've said a lot of that stuff to people tactfully, but Bro. Morris nailed it.

Bro. Morris is so funny....he gave a talk that was straight forward.

That was THE MOST DIRECT talk I've ever heard in my 25 years in the truth! WOW!

It was amazing. Loved bro Morris's talk, he is so direct, he really made me think about my life

A regular brother would get stoned if he gave a public talk like that. Only a GB member could do that.

WOW! That was a very straight to the point talk! I enjoyed it immensely and talk about really making you think. It was very encouraging!!!!

I absolutely loved the Branch visit for a number of reasons. I will be interested to hear what friends thought about the very Direct and Frank discussion by all of the Brothers.

What I get is that there i nothing 'new' as such, just very to the point and hard hitting.

Bro. Morris, LOVED IT!!! Talks like that should be given---maybe more often than they are. Just recall how he opened the talk about where this info originated.

What you have here is conditioning through osmosis. One of the GB says things in a talk that NO ONE else could say as it's unloving, unscripturual, full of personal opinion and judgemental. One of the GB says things in a talk that will NEVER be published as they are too controversial to be put down in print.

This stuff gets lapped up by ones in audience who wish they could be as judgemental, unloving, unscriptural and opinionated from the platform but can't because they are not one of the GB. It does give them tacit approval to voice their opinions more however.

At the AGM they show mock humilty about not "going beyond the things written" over Franz's type/anti type shite yet 4 weeks later present a bunch of opinion to an audience of over a million (1 in 8 of the global JW audience) which is full of personal opinion. This opinion then becomes the rules because 1 in 8 heard in from a GB member's mouth directly. 1 in 8 has lapped it up and can refer to it time and time again without it ever being in print.

It's a tool that has been used for years by the WTS but the ability to use technology to get GB talks into halls directly takes it to a whole new level.

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Geoffrey Jackson hints at the identity of the King of the North

by scotoma in

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the big news at the annual corporate meeting was probably the sudden realization that gog of .

magog was some group of nations.

the news was given by geoffrey jackson.

konceptual99

They know nothing. It's just a bogus method of raising expectations without having to say anything of consequence. I think they will be very cautious about ever putting a stake in the ground on this one. Be prepared for it to become less concrete and more abstract.

Ultimately they never can know who the KOTN is - since the whole thing is untrue.

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Vic'n'Bob ... in the US?

by LoveUniHateExams in

i must be mad for starting this thread, but here goes: i quite like vic reeves and bob mortimer.

before you all jump on me, i realise that their humour is often childish and very hit-or-miss, to say the least.. however, when i'm in the right mood, some of their sketches are simply hilarious.. i was also wondering how british humour is received in other countries, particularly the us.. .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizyptckdz8.

konceptual99

Love 'em. Saw them on tour several times. Brilliant.

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Kingdom Hall consolidations in the UK

by raymond frantz in

/from reliable sources (brothers in position within the congragation) i've been informed that in two different location within the uk congragations are to be consolidated .these men are loyal to the society and have no contact with ex-jw community .many brothers and sisters within these 4 congragations are devasted and undertantably very upset .one of these congragation has in excess of 150k in the bank currently "held" by the society as a loan .do you have any more information on this ?

is this just a one off or a new trend ?.

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konceptual99

PS... A similar situation exists in Alton (Hampshire) - rual congregation. One move to share with Petersfield (another rural cong) cancelled at the last minute. They might be combining with congregations in Basingstoke (urban) now.

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Kingdom Hall consolidations in the UK

by raymond frantz in

/from reliable sources (brothers in position within the congragation) i've been informed that in two different location within the uk congragations are to be consolidated .these men are loyal to the society and have no contact with ex-jw community .many brothers and sisters within these 4 congragations are devasted and undertantably very upset .one of these congragation has in excess of 150k in the bank currently "held" by the society as a loan .do you have any more information on this ?

is this just a one off or a new trend ?.

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konceptual99

KH operating expenses for 4 congs in 1 hall are not 4 x 1 cong in 1 hall. If you combine congregations and maintain the donations then you have less outgoings but the same income.

Not only that but if multiple congs sell existing halls and give all the cash to the society as the current arrangement dictates then you get cash in from several sources, but only need to loan one sum for one hall. Don't forget as well that some of the congregations have (had) substantial accounts if they have been in their current hall a few decades.

As smiddy says - money grab.

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Consider the "outcome" when elders apply the two-witness "rule"

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule is applied by elders when a witness member accuses another member of a sin, even if that sin is a criminal act.

if there arent two witnesses to the accusation, it goes nowhere, including not being reported to the authorities.

and in the case of an allegation of child abuse, the accused is free to molest again.. watchtower attorney, jim mccabe, recently stated this about jehovahs witnesses two-witness rule which he described as a bible-based belief :.

konceptual99

I know most elders are well meaning and want to do what's right, but they are sometimes doing more harm than good. It's a very difficult thing to confront someone you know with an accusation like that, the average elder is just not qualified to determine the truth in these matters. They may feel an abuser is repentant and think the problem is solved, but even when they are repentant they are at high risk of abusing again, and the reality is most abusers are good at deception.

Years before this case the Watchtower said publicly that it would be very rare that a child abuser would ever be given privileges in the congregation again, but Campos was made an elder after being caught more than once. It's obvious that their official polcy is not always what actually happens. The two witness rule makes it almost impossible to prove abuse took place, and even with a confession, confidentiality rules ensures that others in the congregation may not know that there are predators in their so called "spiritual paradise".

This is not a case of individuals making mistakes, or an isolated incident here or there, this is a direct result of policies and practices that are there because the WTBTS and the governing body will protect themselves and their own interests above that of any victim. They have publicly berated the Cathoic church over their abuse issues, while they were paying off victims and insisting on confidentiality. They are hypocrites of the worse sort.

This is exactly the point that Enzo cannot get. The processes and deference to WT Legal means elders are falling into risk laden situations by default.

Even if an abuser is known to be in the congregation, it is WT Legal (via the branch) that determines if the person is going to be treated as a "known child molester". The elders can only take steps to "protect" the congregation if WT Legal let them. Woe betide any who step out of line and have a quiet word with parents - they will be up before a JC for slander before you know it.

Who really is being protected here?

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Posters do you know of any cases where a devout JW was DF'd for Lesbianism?

by booker-t in

i think this is a hush hush topic among jws but i remember years ago at an assembly i saw two sisters(i am only assuming they were jws they could have been studies or relatives of jws) walking arm and arm like a married couple.

some of the jws looked at them like they had horns.

some of the jws moms were covering their small children's eyes and those two women were stared at like they had the plague.

konceptual99

Some young sisters in the Worthing, West Sussex area got df'ed for it a few years back.