Posts by jwleaks

a word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?

the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.

The basis for the authority of the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses is because it says so in the Watchtower magazine. (Don't think too hard on that one!) Reminds me of the other "one true" religion...

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Is the rule of the "two witnesses" always applied in cases of apostasy?

by Judge Rochefort in

hello there.

this is my first thread here.i was wondering if anybody here could help me with a question that i have.my question is this: is it always applied the rule of the "two witnesses" in cases of apostasy?

i'll put an example:if a jw is working with another jw and one of them is continuously talking about teachings contrary to the bible truth as taught by jehovah's witnesses, would the testimony of the other jw be enough to form a judicial committee?thanks!

jwleaks

If you are reported to an elder then at least one elder, if not two, will approach you and commence a religious inquisition to entrap you. This happened to me once after I made a comment to a sister in the congregation, whom I believed was looking for a pretext and itching to get me into trouble. I knew she'd run off to a certain elder, who would then come after me with a certain viciousness. So yes I set them up. I told the sister the teaching of 607 BCE was wrong. At the next meeting Brother Elder cornered me.

ELDER: Do you have a moment.

ME: Yes.

ELDER: Do you believe the faithful and discreet slave are Jehovah's true channel on earth today?

ME: That's an interesting question brother [elder]. Are you having personal doubts?

ELDER: Well no, not me. I'm asking you.

ME: I understand. Will you be asking everyone in the congregation this question?

ELDER: Well, ummm. I was just asking you.

ME: You were just asking me. Why?

ELDER: I'm ummm, just concerned about your spirituality.

ME: Thank you brother for your concern about my spirituality. Does that mean that you are not concerned about the spirituality of anyone else in the congregation as you are not asking them this question?

ELDER: Well no. Yes. I was just asking you.

ME: As an elder don't you believe you should be interested in the spirituality of the entire congregation?

ELDER: I am, but I'm just asking you?

ME: Would you like me to help you question all the other brothers and sisters in the congregation so that there are at least two witnesses to their reply? How about we start with asking all the other elders first?

ELDER: [silence]

ME: Why are you really challenging my faith brother [elder]?

ELDER:Ummm, someone in the congregation mentioned that your speaking negatively about some of the teachings of the bible?

ME: Did this person claim I said something negative about the faithful and discreet slave?

ELDER: Well no, not exactly.

ME: Oh, not exactly. So you exactly remember what they said. What exactly did they falsely claim?

ELDER: Well, ummm, they were just concerned.

ME: Do you exactly remember who they were and can you tell me?

ELDER:Well, ummm, the talk was in private.

ME: A private talk? Was there anyone else there, like another elder or a second witness?

ELDER: Well no.

ME: I see. Was this private one-on-one discussion that you had, was it with a brother or a sister?

ELDER: Well, ummm, that's not important.

ME: Brother [elder], it is important because elders should not spend time alone with sisters. If it was known they would be removed. Therefore I take it you spoke to another brother in the congregation.

ELDER: Ummm.

ME: Brother [elder] I can assure you I have never spoken to any brother in the congregation and shared any concern I have over the teachings of the bible or the faithful and discreet slave. Now would you like to ask me the question again?

ELDER: Ummm.

ME: Brother [elder], it appears to me that someone in the congregation has slandered my name to you in your capacity as an elder. I personally feel that it is my christian obligation to approach this person face-to-face in harmony with the teachings of Jesus as found in Matthew chapter eighteen to sort this problem out. No doubt brother [elder] you will share the name of this person with me so that I can comply with the instructions that the faithful and discreet slave have put in the Watchtower about resolving personal differences. As a christian I feel compelled to do this before running off to any elder with a complaint. Could you give me the name of the person please?

ELDER: Well, we don't have to go down that path.

ME: Brother [elder] I have to go down that path. Someone in the congregation has sinned against me. It needs to be resolved. This is what Jehovah commands and this is what the faithful and discreet slave instructs us to do.

ELDER: I was asked not to share their name.

ME: Brother [elder] it appears to me that you may have made this person up. Please give me their name?

ELDER: I can't.

ME: Then I have no choice but to follow Jesus advice and the instructions of the faithful and discreet slave. Brother [elder] you have sinned against me by covering over the slandering of my name and thereby becoming a sharer in those sins.

Brother Elder walks away. Five minutes later I approach the elder with two other elders from the congregation.

ME: Brother [elder] I just told [names of the two elders] that you wanted the body of elders to convene a judicial committee to disfellowship me.

ELDER: No, I never said that.

ME: Yes you did. You said that sister [so-and-so] had told you that I did not believe in the teaching of 607 and 1914.

ELDER: I never said anything of the sort.

ME: Yes you did. You told me that you had a private one-on-one meeting with sister [so-and-so] and she told you this. You then told this to me.

ELDER: I never had any such talk.

ME: I accuse you of lying before these two witnesses.

Sister so-and-so is called over from the other side of the kingdom hall by me.

ME: Sister [so-and-so] I'm sorry if I upset your faith with what I said.You have my permission to tell the elders what you told brother [elder].

Sister so-and-so tells the elders about her discussion with brother elder and what she told him about her discussion with me.

ME: As you can see brothers, brother [elder] lied to you about the discussion he had with me, and lied to you about the discussion he had with sister [so-and-so]. I found out the two of them were having an affair and brother [elder] tried to get me disfellowshipped to cover this up. Sister so-and-so was helping him so as to cover up their adultery.

Brother elder and sister so-and-so both got disfellowshipped and ran off together leaving their marriage mates and children behind.

The moral to the story. Who cares. But the point is... take control of the religious inquisition and challenge the elder so as to put him in a corner.

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Jehovah's Witness Found Dead at Watchtower Training Center Florida

by jwleaks in

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news report.

man found dead at jehovah's witness facility.

the daytona beach news-journal.

jwleaks

NEWS REPORT

Man Found Dead at Jehovah's Witness Facility

The Daytona Beach News-Journal

5 March 2015

PALM COAST — A 41-year-old man was found dead inside a dorm room at the Jehovah’s Witness training center in Palm Coast and autopsy results won’t be released until a toxicology report is completed, according to the Office of the Medical Examiner.

Toxicology tests take about 90 days, said Koni Rogers, director of operations at the District 23 office in St. Augustine.

Emergency responders confirmed the deceased was Seante Richardson, 41, of Mobile, Alabama. He had been staying at the training center at 4500 Palm Coast Parkway SE for two weeks and was working on a project to translate the Bible into sign language, according to the Flagler County Sheriff’s Office.

The Palm Coast Facility of Jehovah’s Witnesses released a statement late Thursday.

“We are saddened by the sudden death of Seante Richardson, one of the Jehovah’s Witnesses from Mobile, Alabama, this past weekend. Seante was at the (facility) temporarily assisting in the production of recordings in American Sign Language. All of us who knew Seante feel a deep loss. We are focusing on providing spiritual encouragement and comfort for his family and friends.”

Deputies were called to the facility shortly after 9:30 p.m. Sunday. Richardson’s wife and co-workers hadn’t heard from him since the previous Friday and contacted administrators at the training center, authorities said.

Someone on the property with a master key entered the room, found Richardson and paramedics were called, according to Sheriff’s Office reports.

Richardson’s wife was contacted by the Sheriff’s Office and notified of her husband’s death. She told deputies Richardson had no medical history and was not on any medications, detectives said.

No identification was found on Richardson or in his room and there were no signs of injury or suspicious activity, according to reports.

Rogers said a toxicology report is routine and preliminary autopsies, normally completed within 24 hours, are not done at her office.

Deputy Paula Priester, a sheriff’s spokeswoman, said her agency had no additional information about the case beyond what was included in the report.

A written statement from the Jehovah’s Witnesses stated the religious organization is “cooperating fully” with the Sheriff’s Office investigation.

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new bethel application question are you a racist?

by poopie in

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will the gb finally admit there is systemic racism at the highest levels of the organization.

jwleaks

God is not a racist. As of November 2014 the full Bible has been translated into 531 languages, and 2,883 languages have at least some portion of the Bible.

The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is not racist. Their monthly English language televangelical shows, featuring themselves, have no doubt been translated into all the other languages spoken by Jehovah's Witnesses apart from English.

The Watchtower Society is not racist. For example Jesus is depicted as a white caucasian in their books and magazines. And everyone knows that the color white is a blend of all the colors under the rainbow.

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JW Cart's Family Photos. My Pusher stole my JWCart1975 I.D. but here I am!

by JWCart in

some of us ride, some of us roll.. .

family reunion of jw carts gathering together for missionary work, some people waste their time in liberia trying to help ebola victims, jehovah's organization spends all their time focused on meaningful endeavors by bringing them salvation.

pusher said "why bother helping when people are going to die anyway, focus on the big picture (joining jehovah's organization is the only way to eliminate homelessness, hunger and global issues", doctors waste their time in west africa when they could be pushing carts with literature and books, that's real healing", i still don't understand why we can't help the poor and sick but than again, i am just a jw cart!.

jwleaks

If you look close enough you can see it's really an overlapping trolley cart.

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Watchtower switching to selling children's toys that have corporation approval

by Brokeback Watchtower in

hey put a good video out about the evil toys on the market and the possibility of making jehovah very very sad by having these things in your house and demons start to party on your sofa.

then wait a couple of weeks and offer a entire line of acceptable toys and charge the hypnotized families a stiff price/suggested contribution.

could make a few million and help pay off some of these child molestation lawsuits.. i can just see tony morris singing 'rubber ducky' and offering the latest marketing scam of a toy that don't make jehovah so sad.

jwleaks

Collector cards

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What would you do with an abuse settlement?

by StarTrekAngel in

what would you do if you were conti or lopez and had a large award?

sure, the options and the tastes are many but consider this.... i don't know if this has already been covered or mentioned but i think there would be no better investment of that money than to put into a non-profit.

on dedicated to seek out and bring forward more cases.

jwleaks

Put 10% aside, non-profit / trust fund, to help others in their cases against the WTBTS with the understanding that if they are successful they payback the money into the fund and contribute 10% to the fund.