Posts by SummerAngel

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New to the truth

by MatthewHewey in

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friends

i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.

i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.

so far, i love it.

Most people are on this forum because they experienced like you initial love bombing and were taken in by how wonderful it all appeared then they got bitten. If you get baptised it is very hard to leave. The usual trajectory to new comers they offer all the practical help you need accommodation, work clothes and belongings- so far what's not to like ehh? Then you are gradually ' encouraged' to leave behind old friends, family anyone who doesn't believe the same as them. They basically make you totally reliant then when you want to leave it all disappears and those new friends etc will shun you, that job will go as will the accommodation etc.

I'm born in but left approx 30 yes ago family all in. I've chosen to be Christian that's not a popular choice on this site but if you feel you want an option you could look at an alpha course but I'm not here to promote any other religion i m just suggesting you have choices. Just because the JWs appear nice don't assume you cannot find that elsewhere without the other issues.

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My younger brother officially Disassociated today

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.

just wanted to share this with you as it's kind of got me worried.

my brother who was also raised in "the truth™" met me in town today for a coffee.

SummerAngel

Hi Pale

SS should be able to help or certainly offer signposting to an org that can. As a potential vulnerable adult this could come under safeguarding process if he has any emotional pressure and definitely withdrawal of care. Social services will also support with finding a carer and depending on benefits may fund some of the support. Also strongly consider an advocate for him again there should be a local org that deals in this. Advocates are usually free and their role is to ensure the persons voice is heard. MIND may be able to help

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What’s The Strangest Belief of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

by minimus in

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friends

there’s a lot.

i think one strange view is how only 144000 go to heaven.

since the number is mentioned in the symbolic book of revelation, you would expect that the number would be viewed as figurative, but jws say otherwise.

SummerAngel

Obsession with anything that could be construed even remotely as demonic. Example we went to disney this year , the disney corp send out a guide to their parks its called .....

’the little book of magic’

its co ered i. Pics of mickey, cinderellas castle etc however my mother wouldnt even touch it due to the title she had decided i was i to witch craft.

Over the years they echucked perfectly good furniture and toys because they ‘made them feel odd so must be demonised’

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So my PIMO Younger Brother Tried To Kill Himself Today

by pale.emperor in

we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.

he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.

he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.

SummerAngel

Hi Pale Emperor. Really sorry to hear whats happening for you and your brother. I have quite a good knowledge of mental health system. Hosp stays can be very short die to pressure on beds. He may benefit from a non Jw. Advocat the ward manager can support him to get this they dhould provide a neutral person to ensure his wishes rather than his families are heard. Try and ensure you are a visible presence on the ward and that they have you as a main contact to be involved in discharge plans. It may be helpful for him to have ongoing support from the community MH team im thinking they will be a non JW influence to help him decide direction. My experience of MH teams was they are quite anti religion but tend to see them all the same so wouldnt necessarily twig that JWs were a cult so may be helpful to i form them this is more than just family being over protective. Pm me if you need to. Ive lived and worked around MH for years

This cult regards loyalty above life.

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Great music video from Apostate chick

by ToesUp in

https://youtu.be/cafygzb1geo.

maybe she can help out watchtower with their monthly videos.. great job.

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SummerAngel

That is brillient so spot on

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Pale.Emperor Meets A Born Again Christian

by pale.emperor in

of all the religions out there one religion that's always filled me with exasperation was the born again christian belief system.

to make matters worse, the street preachers i see and hear here in liverpool always tend to be crack pot, loud mouths, attention seeking and just plain annoying.. this idea that "im going to heaven, you're going to hell" is enough to make me not want to worship their god even if he did exist.

but today i met two.

SummerAngel

I was in 2 minds about posting a reply to this as i have identified as evangelical Christian for the last 2/half decades which on this site isnt popular.

When i hear the stuff people encounter from cerrtAin faith groups i cringe. Unfortunately the fruit loops and fanatacists are always the most visable and the 2nd guy you spoke to although slightly inept is probably more representative of those i mix with. I dont know of anyone in the churches i have gone to that would shout abuse down the microphone in the street and ive met some pretty fundy christians

but im not doubting you. As regards evangelising myself i have a total adversion to both giving and receiving it and think its a dreadful witness. My church is heavily involved in community work which involves monthly messy church which gets around 40 kids and 20 adults, and an annual community week of entertainment usually for kids and families. Loads have joined from these. We had about 6 baptisms in the last year in a church of 60 people- bit better than JWs. All adults.

Regarding the comment about jesus giving him something to live for. I wouldnt agree with this, i have family, friends life etc i dont think his view is that representative but it may be that if that church encounters a lot of depressive suicidal people then that view is expressed commonly but i wouldnt say most christians i know would feel thar way.

I think what you encountered was one of the very fundementalist versions possibly new fronteers which tend to be more that way. Extremism of any type is ugly and there are plenty of extremely devout atheists on this site who can be quite offensive to those who do have faith too.

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Normal things you missed out on as a kid (besides holidays)

by Are you serious in

since me and my siblings had to go to service every saturday, and i mean every saturday, i missed out on something so normal as watching good ole saturday morning cartoons from the 70's and 80's.

i remember wishing i could stay home just one saturday so i could watch cartoons.

but noooo we had to go save lives!

SummerAngel

Being an angel in the school nativity

decorating a xmas tree

Smelling and seeing a firework display for real

relaxed clothes

parties

attending dance classes they were saturday mornings

doing gym classes they were also saturday mornings

learning to do ballroom that involved dancing with boys -i was 7!!

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Freak out over a magic 8 ball toy

by charity7 in

just had a jw freak out over some magic 8 balls that i have.

next thing you know i turn my head and it was thrown into a box to get rid of it.

is it because it has the word magic in it?

SummerAngel

My mum saw the Disney holiday handbook on the table which was entitled 'The little book of magic" she was then convinced it was about witchcraft. The cover had a picture of Micky mouse on it!

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JWs + Chronic Illness

by Cimarrona in

i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

SummerAngel

I think some of it comes from short term thinking- if panda paradise is round the corner along with perfect bodies why treat your health with any respect. Likewise I think many including were told they wouldn't get old/sick and die so aren't emotionally prepared for it. Every sign of ageing reinforces the disappointment of no Armageddon.

I also think the very sedentary lifestyle as sport is discouraged or even having hobbies together with poor diet from low wages and not enough time have contributed. There is also a deep distrust of both medical and mental health professionals replaced by use of quack cures.

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is armageddon starting ?

by stan livedeath in

the sky is so dark here in the south of the uk.

could be armageddon starting.. or then it could be dust particles in the atmosphere..

SummerAngel

Its hilarious that with so many atheists 1 funny colour sky and everyone thinks s""*t Armageddon's here maybe the JWs were right after all!!