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  1975 EX JW Critical Thinkers video.

  by WHATSGOINGON in

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  hi everyone.

  jt and lady cee have posted an awesome video about 1975, its very interesting.. check it out, i just watched it and its great.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6nocaq0x-8 .

  cheers wgo..

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  JT is hillarious... love his subtle (and not so subtle) sense of sarcasm
  
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  Reading hearts - Only Jah can.. but Jesus too.

  by Sanchy in

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  was reading the daily text this morning (june 26th, 2017) and found this:.

  but jesus, who could read hearts, discerned that the people were more interested in physical food than in what he taught.

  he saw what was wrong, patiently corrected them, and explained how they could improve.. .

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  Was reading the daily text this morning (June 26th, 2017) and found this:

  But Jesus, who could read hearts, discerned that the people were more interested in physical food than in what he taught. He saw what was wrong, patiently corrected them, and explained how they could improve.

  I felt like I had read elsewhere that only Jehovah had the power to read hearts. Did a bit of research and quickly found this from the 2013 "Imitate their Faith" book, chap 14, parr 9:

  The truth is, we should never assume that it is impossible for people to repent​—no matter how vicious they may seem to us. Only Jehovah can read what lies within the human heart.

  You can't have it both ways Watchtower. Can Jehovah alone read hearts? or can Jesus do so as well?
  
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  Today's Watchtower Study 25 June " Do You Share Jehovah's Sense of Justice?" April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

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  same theme scripture as last week deut 32.

  3/4 "a god... who is never unjust".

  do i share that spirit ?

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  "Do you share Jehovah's sense of justice?"....

  Lemme see... Six thousand years ago, some lady and her husband ate an apple from a tree, angering the Creator for it and thus God proceeded to inflict humanity with isolation and calamity. The results of the punishment having been billions of humans dying throughout history, suffering, disease, natural disasters, war, poverty, injustice, birth defects and the list goes on and on. All because some chick and her man ate a fruit.
  

  If this is God's justice, then no, I do not share such a sense.
  
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  The future

  by no-zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  considering the demographic transition patterns of societies historically under go and in particular how the population pyramids evolve over time has a direct application to the future of the organization and i encourage all to have a look at this very interesting subject.

  i've spent quite a bit of time formally studying these proven concepts and despite all the spin we hear and read about the magnificent growth the society is enjoying ... it is in fact in a death spiral (or more exactly a stage 5 population contraction).

  look it up for yourselves guys, it can be quite encouraging when you think about.

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  The WT is just changing its model from depending on people doing hard labor for them to sell their printed books to real estate.
  

  
  IMO, the recent real estate transactions were taken as a result of their financial troubles. The move provided quite the monetary boost, but ultimately the model is unsustainable, as eventually members will be more important than cash.
  
  
  
  
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  WT - Study Ed, October 2017 - The Truth Brings, “Not Peace, But a Sword”

  by Sanchy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  another article analyzing how bad poor jw's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

  few interesting quotes:.

  parr 2:.

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  Another article analyzing how bad poor JW's have it when it comes to opposition from family.

  Few interesting quotes:

  Parr 2:

  But the greatest threat to our peace may come from unbelieving relatives. Some might ridicule our beliefs, accuse us of dividing the family, or threaten to disown us unless we give up our faith. How should we view family opposition? How can we successfully deal with the challenges it brings?

  ..."threaten to disown us unless we give up our faith"? Sounds quite a bit like what JW parents do to children that decide to leave the religion

  Parr 5
  

  In order to prove worthy of the Christ, his disciples have had to endure ridicule or even alienation from their families. Yet, they have gained far more than they have lost.

  Again, JWs that have left due to conscience matters also face "alienation from their families"
  

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  Even when our relatives oppose our efforts to worship Jehovah, we continue to love them, but we must remember that our love for God and Christ comes first. (Matt. 10:37) We must also realize that Satan will try to use our affection for our family to break our integrity. Let us consider some situations involving family opposition and see how we can successfully face the challenges that these bring.

  "You should continue "loving opposing family members", but!!!, you better continue shunning them. Don't even answer their phone calls." I wonder if Jesus would approve of this type of twisted "love".

  17 When a family member is disfellowshipped or he disassociates himself from the congregation, it can feel like the stab of a sword. How can you cope with the pain that this brings?

  18 Keep up your spiritual routine. Build yourself up by regularly reading the Bible, preparing for and attending Christian meetings, sharing in the field ministry, and praying for the strength to endure

  .. "You can heal the pain from having a family member leave the religion by working harder for Watchtower and talking to yourself"

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  Respect the discipline of Jehovah. His arrangement can bring the best long-term outcome for all, including the wrongdoer, even though the immediate effect is painful. (Read Hebrews 12:11.) For example, Jehovah instructs us to “stop keeping company” with unrepentant wrongdoers. (1 Cor. 5:11-13) Despite our pain of heart, we must avoid normal contact with a disfellowshipped family member by telephone, text messages, letters, e-mails, or social media.

  "Don't phone, text, email or FB your DF son or daughter. Let them rot in hell. Maybe that'll force them to come back"

  Also, what about those that are not "unrepentant wrongdoers"? What if the person just decided that their conscience no longer allowed them to continue worshiping God in the JW way? Why should these folks be treated as "unrepentant wrongdoers"?

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  If you see evidence that a close family member is having a change of heart, you could pray that he or she gain strength from the Scriptures and respond to Jehovah’s appeal: “Return to me

  .."Continue talking to yourself"

  Parr 21
  

  Jesus said that if we were to put any human before him, we would not be worthy of him. Yet, he was confident that his disciples would have the courage to maintain their loyalty to him despite family opposition. If following Jesus has brought “a sword” into your family, rely on Jehovah to help you deal with the challenges successfully. (Isa. 41:10, 13) Find joy in knowing that Jehovah and Jesus are pleased with you and that they will reward your faithful course.

  .."Jehovah and Jesus are pleased with you and that they will reward your faithful course"? What kind of sick God takes joy in constantly seeking loyalty through strife, division, bitterness and petty fighting between his children? Deciding whether to worship God or to love an unbelieving family member unconditionally does not need to be mutually exclusive choices.
  
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  What are the chances of getting another Raymond Franz default from head office ?

  by Chook in

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  all regimes get defectors and some are more vocal than others..

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  I'm (foolishly) keeping my fingers crossed for Mark Sanderson. He's the new one and like R Franz, perhaps there's a chance of his disappointment from what he experiences vs what he expected.
  
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  searching

  by dogisgod in

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  can someone please help me find the video from the society regarding not advancing children's talents?

  it's about a child who is very good at something musical and has been invited to participate in a special advanced course but his father explains how that is worldly thinking.

  something along those lines..

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  Here's the entire video series with no commentary:

  https://youtu.be/gCk2XbJukIs
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  The little things that made you feel guilty as a JW?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  watching rated r movies?

  maybe a little gambling in vegas?

  when i was in high school i went to the mall with my friend at the time, who happened to be a female.

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  @confused3426

  Hehe.. you were full-on corrupt weren't you. I in the other hand would feel bad for days, often praying for forgiveness just for having some cake :)
  
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  The little things that made you feel guilty as a JW?

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  watching rated r movies?

  maybe a little gambling in vegas?

  when i was in high school i went to the mall with my friend at the time, who happened to be a female.

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  Having a slice of birthday cake at work
  
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  searching

  by dogisgod in

  1. watchtower
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  can someone please help me find the video from the society regarding not advancing children's talents?

  it's about a child who is very good at something musical and has been invited to participate in a special advanced course but his father explains how that is worldly thinking.

  something along those lines..

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  Sanchy

  You mean the Sergei videos from the 2016 Remain Loyal Conventions:

  https://youtu.be/y15GnzNuOlg