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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

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  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Scholar: The said scholar would like to help you but his understanding is that they wish to remain anonymous akin to the NWT Committee.

  It is a very unscholarly practice to not list sources. As such, I, as a skeptical reader, will assume that those that you claim are "celebrated scholars" are thus neither "celebrated", nor "scholars".

  You, "Scholar" sir, are a fraud and a phony.

  You are engaging on this "apostate" forum against the direction of your proclaimed religious authority.

  You are surely engaging over at the JWTalk website as well, also against the direction of your proclaimed religious authority.

  I bet you are likely considered "spiritually weak" in your own congregation, a perpetual drag on the elders burdened with the headache of dealing with your lack of commitment to the org's protocols and procedures.

  You are neither cold nor warm, here nor there. You are lukewarm. (Revelation 3:6)
  
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  When JW.org drops 607BCE...

  by Nathan Natas in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  probably everyone else thought of this long ago, but i, being an "independent thunker" thunk of it just a coupla weeks ago.. we all know that since the year zero (on the fredfranzian calendar) the wtb&ts has defied archaeology and insisted that jerusalem was destroyed in 607 bce, even though the physical evidence shows that 587 bce is a more likely date.

  in fact, the book "the gentile times reconsidered: have jehovah's witnesses been wrong all along about 607 bce?

  " by carl olof jonsson and rud persson made this conversation public.. it is a difference of 20 years.

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  Scholar: "Celebrated WT scholars have long championed the date 607 BCE"

  Could you please list the the names of these "Celebrated WT Scholars"?

  
  
  
  
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  God, one person, or three?

  by slimboyfat in

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  the trinity doctrine says god is three persons in one being.. yet the bible says god is one.. gal 3.20 a mediator, however, implies more than one party; but god is one.

  niv.

  gal 3.20 now a mediator is not for just one person, but god is one.

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  Yes, and no. Depending on what scripture you choose.
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  A simple rebuttal to the recent 'Last Minute Repentance' change.

  by nicolaou in

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  2. beliefs

  for decades, critics have pointed out the unfairness of god slaughtering billions in a future armageddon who never even met a jw much less heard their life-saving message.

  (remember the contortions around the collective responsibility of nations?

  ) also, why do babies and children have to die simply because their parents rejected the witnesses?

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  What I am wondering is how happenstance could possibly provide atheists with ANY notion of universal evil?

  Well, we certainly didn't get our notion of good and evil from the Bible God considering his notion is contradictory and hypocritical. So, we can scratch that explanation off the list.
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  Is Jesus God?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.

  but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.

  scripture says he's the creator.

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  "It is your sinful nature this is opposed to accepting the terms of God. Sinful man is never satisfied with much of anything.... always wanting more, even from God."

  Yes, this is all that "God" asks of us:

  
  
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

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  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  What's next? Maybe they'll allow Birthdays.
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
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  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  I wonder if all these changes would have been possible if hardliner AM3 were still a member of the GB
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  Beards are now allowed - New Light

  by Listener in

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  lett has announced in the latest video update that jehovah has dignified the brothers by now letting them to choose for themselves whether they want to have a beard or not -.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/region/global/2023-governing-body-update-8/.

  this applies worldwide and to all brothers in any position..

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  The mainstreamification of the religion continues
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  We’re getting out.

  by MissDaSilva in

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  been in for 20 plus years but decided to get out with my son.

  can’t do this anymore.

  never seen such hypocrisy and clickyness anywhere else.

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  Sanchy

  Good for you MissDaSilva.

  Get your son out of there before he's able to decide he wants to stay.
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  Reinstatement Procedure

  by KerryKing in

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  what else has changed?.

  during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.

  i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.

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  Sanchy

  If you're seeking reinstatement, your best bet is to humiliate yourself publicly so that the elders notice, as often as possible.

  Be on your chair in the back of the hall 5 mins before mtg starts, every week, religiously (pun intended).

  After around 6 months of that, write a mea culpa letter to the elders saying that you've come to your senses, recognize that through your actions you've made Jehoovers feel terrible sadness, but feel that he has shown you mercy recently and you believe he is ready to accept you back into his fold.

  Nod your head in approval to all counsel the elders give you and put on a "grateful for advice" facade.

  Do this and you WILL be reinstated.