Ranchette
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New Guardian Article
by Trilobite inhere: http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/story/0,2763,574175,00.html
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UN NGO...? for hawkaw
by Marvin Shilmer inhi, hawkaw.
i have a question for you.
in all your discussions with the uns ngo chief, was there any talk about membership fees or dues required from ngos?
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what about the dateline/pedophile show?
by crittersitter inafter all the recent events happening around us , i was wondering if any have kept an eye out for the dateline series on the peds in wtbs.. the way it's going this could end up being a mini-series about the "uncovering" of more wtbs lies and deceit.. the un thing sure was a shocker.
can the pedophile issue be any less shocking to the r& f??.
my own sister said she was sure the gb thought it over very carefully before they "joined".
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JW Children: Feeling alone and sad
by Gopher infriday many american schools recited the pledge of allegiance to the nation's flag simultaneously, at 2pm eastern time (8am in hawaii).
to be sure, the pressure on children of jw's was great because of the nationalistic feelings that have swept america in the aftermath of the 9/11 terror attacks.. should jw parents simply have removed their children for that afternoon?
or perhaps armed them with a better explanation (about why they won't say the pledge) then "it's because of my religion"???.
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The three reasons we leave the "Truth"
by sleepy inseems to me there are mainly three roads most of us have taken.
1.we did something "wrong" and were disfellowshipped and after felt able to look at the society in a different light.. 2.we didn't like the "truth" and were looking for a way out.. 3.we wanted it to be the truth but were overcome by the mountain of evidence against it.. which is the most common i wonder.. also do our motives play a large part in how we deal with information criticising the org.. without a reason to act information seems useless.. for instance if a person feels he has nothing to gain by leaving the org will he read different things into the same info as us?.
i think so and that all who leave must have a reason to do so, something to gain.. this does not make their reasoning wrong or prove they we are looking for just excuse.. but is a normal way in which humans deals with information.. two humans can have the same information but if they want or desire different things they may use the information differently.. maybe thats wht so many say "where else is there to go?
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Divide And Conquer /with UN Issue & others
by Ranchette inas this un issue has unfolded we have been working very hard to expose the hypocrisy and deceit of the society to our friends and family and also the public.. we continue to be shocked and amazed at the crazy stunts the wtbs pulls.. when i heard that dutch bethel had something to say about this i started thinking about the uninted we stand, divided we fall concept.. i am wondering if we could put more effort into getting this important information to all wt branches all over the world.. as these issues crop up it would be great if we could publicize all of the branches, their addresses, phone#, fax #, e-mails etc.. i noticed that even within brooklyn they dont always know what is going on.. i was thinking that if i were in one of the other branches around the world i would be enraged that brooklyn got us into this mess and brought reproach on jahs name they are also screwing up with the child abuse issue and many others.. is it possible to cause these other branches to question and turn on brooklyn?.
any thoughts on this out there?.
ranchette
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WHAT`s YOUR FAVORITE BEER!
by OUTLAW ini like molson canadian,except when i`m out of the country.then i only drink imported beer...molson canadian.
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So What Will Become Of Them?
by Englishman inso what will happen now?.
the 1914 debacle means that the urgency has gone.
"armageddon ernie" has slipped into sheol and still awaits resurrection.
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MAJOR UN/WTS NEWS- UN LETTER & 1992 Press R...
by hawkaw inas of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk