Posts by Nambo

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To circumcise or not to circumcise?

by srd in

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friends

here's a good one for you, looking at gen 17 and paul's subversive interpretive practices.

http://contradictionsinthebible.com/is-the-covenant-of-circumcision-an-eternal-covenant-or-not/.

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Nambo

http://www.circumstitions.com/Sexuality.html

Whilst American Women might consider a cut Penis looks better, I wonder how many of them have experienced both in order to compare which one actually feels better?

There are mechanics involved that are lost on the cut Penis, the above site does give feedback from both men who where cut later in life, and women who have experienced both.

Something perhaps along the lines of comparing a dry broom handle inside you with a rolling, undulating living wet thing.

From a mans perspective, exposing the glands is a deeply erotic thing, like the difference between being clothed and fully naked, you really get the sence of what God had in mind when he prefigured the circumcision of the heart with the circumcision of the flesh, a delightfully exposed nakedness that the cut man can never experience.

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If Jesus is god???!!!

by El_Guapo in

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friends

(john 8:42; 1 john 4:9).

(mt.

Nambo

Iam suprised no body has mentioned the account in Daniel 7 were The Son of Man gains access to The Anciet of Days and is then given rukership and power.

Unlike all the other points that can be twisted to suit in the way mere words can, this is a description of an occurrence, like when Steven was stoned and saw Jesus standing at Gods right hand, (note no mention of Steven seeing the Holy Spirit standing at Gods left hand, to me the most suspitious thing about the Trinity is the way it seems to usually involve just two).

I never yet met a Trinitarian who even bothered discussing the Daniel 7 account, they seemed to want it to be ignored as they move onto John 1:1 or something equally ambigious.

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Some fairly alarming medical news in Discovery magazine - Nov. 2010 issue:

by james_woods in

expose article on dangers and misrepresentations of a number of new drugs - some points made:.

1) - according to an agency for healthcare research and quality report in 2001, more than 770,000 americans die each year from drug complications.. 2) - care patients don't need of failing to give care that is necessary accounts for an estimated 30% of the annual health care budget - more than 2.4 trillion dollars per year.. 3) - avandia, the diabetes drug made by glaxosmithkline was subject to 42 studies and a 2007 report by dr. steven nissen which showed it plainly increased chances of heart attack and death.

the u.s. senate committee on finance says the company knew about the cardiac side effects for several years before this report was published.. 4) - in 2002 jama published results of a huge study, called the antihypertensive and lipid-lowering treatment to prevent heart attack, or allhat, which showed that inexpensive generic drugs such as diuretics were just as effective as name brand drugs for controlling blood pressure.

Nambo

My husband and i once saw a tv commercial for some drug that treats toe fungus. Then at the end, at a lower volume, a voice said "risks include heart attack ,sudden death, stroke, liver failure, ,etc....." and we looked at each other, laughed out loud, and figured we'd rather cope with the toe fungus!

Wrote Aunt Bee

Heres a much safer tip that really works if you start getting nail fungus, Vicks Vapour Rub, that stuff your Mum rubbed on your chest when you had a cold as a kid, it kills fungus dead, just rub it in your toes nails until fungal damage has grown out.

More releveant to this topis, google dangers of flu vaccines if you are ever tempted to have a vaccine.

The medical staff are quite aware of this, but are under thier own pressures, recently 8 Nurses in Indiana were sacked for refusing the mandaterey Flu shot

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Need Help With Questions From JW Discussion Group

by theopug in

hey there all,.

i was da from a cong in northern new england back in the early 1990s for voting.

i did not write the letter, the elders did it for me.

Nambo

If there is any "Wheat" amongst those "weeds", do not worry, Jesus himself will safely harvest them when the true time comes.

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One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me

by Newly Enlightened in

the following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.

an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.

within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.

Nambo

Didnt Jesus warn about men who dressed as sheep but inside were ravenous wolves?

The JWs do seem to be featured in Biblical prophesy, just not the ones they claim.

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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!

by The Searcher in

the following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.

to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.

" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).

Nambo

How is fire involved if its refering to a Baptism of Christians along with Holy Spirit?

The fire is to "cleanse" the vessel, dear Nambo (peace to you!), so that God and Christ can dwell in it. Holy spirit (the blood, breath, and seed of God) grant life to the spirit IN the vessel once one has BEEN so cleansed and occupied by God/Christ - Isaiah 6:6, 7; Ezekiel 10:2; John 14:23; John 4:14; 7:37-39; Romans 8:9, 10; Ephesians 2:19-22

I even wonder if Jesus baptising in Fire and Holy Spirit means that there are two options only, you either get Baprised in the Holy Spirit, or you get Baptised in the Lake of Fire second death.

It does not. One is "baptized" with both, virtually simultaneously. The fire, then the spirit. Baptism represents a "death" and "resurrection"; however, there is no resurrection from the second death. Unlike the first death, both the body AND the spirit are destroyed at that time.

I hope this helps.

Sorry all, I know this is going off on a bit of a tangent from the main discussion, but I would like an answer and Iam afraid those scriptures you quoted AGuest do not help, the one from Isaiah tells us the coal that touched Isaiahs lips were to atone for sin, I belive for Christians it is Jesus sacrifice that atones for sin, not any cleansing by fire, and none of the other scriptures quoted back up fire being used to cleanse us, wasnt Jesus blood enough to cleanse us?

Now I felt a Baptism of Holy Spirit half hour after water baptism, I do not recall a feeling of being Baptised in Fire, would this be like a burning sensation?, anybody actually able to discribe what it felt like to be Baptised in fire?

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Fallacy of Baptism "in Holy Spirit"!

by The Searcher in

the following comment taken from the march 1st 2013 watchtower, is nothing new.

to witnesses the world over it's a basic teaching which even the kids understand; "humans with heavenly prospects have been baptized in water and with holy spirit and are thus spirit-begotten disciples of jesus.

" (john 3:3, 5) (both at the same time??????).

Nambo

Now I allways imagined Jesus baptising people in "Fire" could only refer to Jesus hurling them into Gehenna at the judgement at the end of the thousand years.

How is fire involved if its refering to a Baptism of Christians along with Holy Spirit?

I even wonder if Jesus baptising in Fire and Holy Spirit means that there are two options only, you either get Baprised in the Holy Spirit, or you get Baptised in the Lake of Fire second death.

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All the Single Ladies put your hands up!

by mojonogo in

hi, i read a lot on here, and i am still active, i get about 3 hrs a month in service so not really that active.

i know there are ones on here shaking their heads at me, i do believe the basic teachings, what brought me to post a thread was a thread that hit home, the topic of dating in the oganization, it brought up a lot of hurt feelings for me.

see, i used to pioneer and i basically burned out, i was working mon wed friday sat and sun 2nd shift so i could go to the meetings on tue and thurs.

Nambo

"Sorry this was so rambly I guess what I was looking for is if any one else had any similiar experiences with others trying to keep them from marrying or dating someone else even in the congregation, when your technically not doing anything wrong."

Yep, happened to me and it has completly ruined my life.

I was courting a Sister from a congregation about 200 miles away, trouble is, she was of a higher Caste than me, she was of the Pioneer Caste so when she came to my congreagation, the Elders convinced her that she should stick to her own Caste so she ended the relationship.

Thing is, I never met a girl before and certainly not since that I like half as much, so I havnt had a girlfriend since 1992, nobody else does it for me, Iam now too Old anyway so face the rest of my life in hopeless loneliness. Anyone else would be a compromise and grossly unfair on them.

It also put me off Jehovah for about 10 years as I belived the Golden Calf actually spoke with Jehovahs voice and it was he telling me I wasnt good enough to marry one of his perfect JWs.

One of the things they told her about me was that I was missing a few meetings, like they expected me to attend my congregation whilst simultaneously attending hers 200 miles away.

Bunch of evil ists whatever ism can be applied to the Caste system.

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Anyone ever know any Palmers from London UK?

by NoRegrets in

just wondering if any of you ever knew any londoners with that surname.

one of them moved around doing construction work at several european branches and eventually moved to the us.

pm me if anyone wants and did know any of them.

Nambo

All through high school I never learnt much because I was allways thinking of a girl called Thelma who had this surname, that was in South London but she wasnt a dub.

First girl I ever asked out, bought tickets to see an Alex Harvey concert, but of course by 16, a pretty girl is allready spoken for.

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Preppers and prepping.... thoughts?

by EntirelyPossible in

what do you guys think of preppers?

i have been watching doomsday preppers on natgeo (it's just a trainwreck, i can't stop watching) and while those guys are a joke, i think have a few weeks worth of supplies and water on had is a good idea (tornadoes, hurricane, freak snow/ice storm, etc.).

however, prepping years worth of food, 5000 rounds of ammo per gun, building a fortified bunker.... what for?

Nambo

Makes good economic sense, with the increase in food prices, you will see a far better return on your savings if you buy food rather than put it in the bank.

I eat a very high quality Muesli and the super market was doing an offer, buy two and get one free, so I amassed a years supply. Once I ran out and had to buy again, I found the basic price had gone up 100% over that year.

I aim to have 42 months of food for the duration of when I wont be able to buy or sell.

Do the Witnesses still consider the "Mark of the Beast" something you get by voting?, how does voting prevent you from "buying or selling"?

Any of you Americans concerned with your imminent fall over the fiscal cliff?