Posts by UnshackleTheChains

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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?

by aboveusonlysky in

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we're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?

has such a thing been tried before?.

https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .

UnshackleTheChains

If there is any good that comes of the shunning policy is that the Society will continue to receive bad press. That bad press is now everywhere.

Anyone studying with Jehovah's Witnesses with an inkling of curiosity and a smart phone will learn that this policy is part and parcel of this organisation.

Many of us who came into this religion before the days of the internet had no idea such a cruel policy existed. I certainly didn't.

Keep up the good work Watchtower leadership. That's the kind of publicity YOU really need going forward as an organisation!!

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How long has it been since you have seen your family?

by Christian Gutierrez in

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howdy guys!

so how long has it been since you have seen your jw family or friends?

or do you even care to have them in your life anymore?

UnshackleTheChains

The experiences here speak volumes. I tried to fade, but almost immediately started feeling the effects. If it weren't for my wife who has many relatives and friends who are JW's, I would have continued my fade. I now only keep up appearences to avoid the stress of it all. One very close relative told me they would 'have to remain loyal' if I officially left (DA'd). The shunning policy this religion employs is repugnant!

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Why does Jehovah choose certain people to rule with him in heaven?

by iWant2Learn in

in other words, what good works have the 144000 done to be secured a place in heaven?

i am told they have already been chosen.

does that mean that jehovah also knows our future?

UnshackleTheChains

It mistifies me how the 144000 are to rule over mankind FROM heaven. Other bibles say they will rule ON earth according to revelation.

I believe there will be exemplary ones who will make up an administration (holy ones) to rule over mankind once Jesus comes back again. It will be an organised perfect merciful kingdom with It's capital in Israel (Jerusalem)

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Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

by kpop in

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this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

UnshackleTheChains

The memorial was incredibly lack luster last night. The speaker didn't help....Poor guy.

It was dull, boring and very generic.

I couldn't help feeling we are doing the complete opposite of what Jesus told us to do in regards to eating the bread and wine......ie carrying out a weird ritual of refusing the Lord's supper!!

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

UnshackleTheChains

Ok . They (THE GOVERNING BODY) must 'personally' and I mean 'personally' know that certain teachings or policies are just plain wrong! Yet they go along with the tide. Surely, SURELY they must ask themselves if MY decisions are having an impact on the lives of thousands of people earth wide!.

Truth is truth. Jesus is looking on. YHWH and Jesus see everything. What's more important. A comfortable lifestyle or TRUTH. Ask yourselves GB. What is right?

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

UnshackleTheChains

delude

dɪˈl(j)uːd/

verb

past tense: deluded; past participle: deluded

make (someone) believe something that is not true.

"too many theorists have deluded the public"

mislead, deceive, fool, take in, trick, dupe, hoodwink, double-cross, gull, beguile, lead on;

cheat, defraud, swindle;

informalcon, bamboozle, pull the wool over someone's eyes, pull a fast one on, lead up the garden path, take for a ride,

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Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

by NikL in

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i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

UnshackleTheChains

NO

They MUST know that things aren't right. There is too much out there for them not to know. Personally, I think they are fully aware, but HAVE TO put on a front to keep the boat steady. Fear is also a major factor. Mess with us or else. Ray Franz is testament of that!

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Has Anyone Ever Just Gotten Mad and "Popped" an Elder?

by Cold Steel in

it has to have happened.

people get stressed out, an elder or overseer takes just two steps over the line and gets a fat lip for his trouble.. does that ever happen?

or maybe someone "counsels" a brother at the wrong time and tempers flare at the old kingdom hall?.

UnshackleTheChains

There was one elder in my old hall I couldn't stand. His lofty, arrogant, ignorant, uncaring attitude toward me and others annoyed me big time. I often imagined the satisfaction I would have felt by kicking this smarmy AH right up the hole with a pair of pointed steel toed shoes on!

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

UnshackleTheChains

I give them the benefit of the doubt that they are actually deluded and beleive their own teachings. Many of us were deluded at one time too

Yes, but I find it incredible given that so much has gone under the bridge so to speak. As a group of men, they surely have meetings to discuss serious matters. Eg the many court cases re child abuse allegations, the ARC hearings, the large amount of critism coming at them from all angles through the media. Yet life goes on at JW.Org like nothing has or is happening. We still see the members of the GB smiling and talking into the camera on jw broadcasting like everything is just so very very perfect. It reminds me of a colleague who always humourously said 'oh well....Never mind' regardless.

What's' more, you never hear a whisper about 'anything' at the hall between members, even close friends! It's simply astounding.

Any psychologist would find JWs and their leadership an interesting but baffling study group in relation to cognitive thinking and behaviours!

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Why are the individuals who make up the Governing Body so deluded

by UnshackleTheChains in

surely these men must see what's going on.

if they can afford fancy pinky rings, they must have smart phones.

if they have smart phones, they must be inquisitive as to how they are perceived.

UnshackleTheChains

The comments here answer the question quite well. But deep down, surely there must be one or two among them with a conscience. If they search deep enough within their own souls, the many controversial issues out there must be having an impact.

As a collective body of men, they have managed to make a somewhat odd religion into one of the most controversial religions on the planet, for all the wrong reasons!

Reasoning with these men is virtually impossible. They will be their own downfall.