That is unbelievablbly sad
I feel the pain.
i'm feeling very angry tonight as i watched my mother in law end her relationship with my husband, her son, tonight.
we were happily inactive, enjoying a distant but decent relationship with my in laws until they saw some christmas decorations and everything changed.
i spent two hours getting drilled on whether my husband and i celebrate holidays, to be told that my laws won't socialize with us anymore.
That is unbelievablbly sad
I feel the pain.
i am not wanting to start a fight.
i just want to hear what people think.
honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.
Judging by Angus Stewart's tone as to why they simply don't apply the laws of the land when it comes to child abuse allegations, coupled with judge Mclellands obvious annoyance when pressing them on shunning, they will not treat this lightly.
I think they will throw the book at them pushing the Australian branch into a corner to comply.
when i was in , i went on many vacations, ate out at restaurants a lot and drank alcohol.
loved music and dancing too.... do jws do anything but watch watchtower videos now?
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Welllll.....
The younger ones (in cities) generally meet up in large groups and enjoy a good knees up with plenty of alcohol involved
AND
The older ones go on nights out with their work mates when the opportunity arises.
Why?
Because there are no organised social events for witnesses; and therefore out of sheer boredom resort to the above.
For the ultra strict ones, they tend to mix with other like-minded elite playing Scrabble over a root beer 😋
hi all.. this is a reasonable question and would love to know what you think is having the biggest impact on watchtower.
there is a plethora of websites talking negatively of watchtower.
there are the never ending court cases regarding child abuse allegations.
Hi all. Really interesting view points.
Personally, I think the age of the internet is having the most impact. I recall back in 1995 (when having doubts...But couldn't put my finger on it) seeing an apostate book in a Christian book shop. I remember thinking will I buy it, but then feeling incredibly guilty for even thinking of buying it and walked straight out of the shop.
Got my first PC in 2000 and it was only when my marriage was hitting the rocks, along with my spirituality in 2002 that I slowly began looking at website forums such as this one. It felt great knowing I wasn't the only one with niggling doubts. I recall seeing on one forum a title called the watchtower society's most burned book. It was the book ' crisis of conscience' which I managed to read twice within a week.
The internet opened up a Pandora's box. Information at your fingertips. I have no doubt most JWs read or view things about the society given the huge amount of information available.
what is the exact live streaming site for the arc today in sydney?
i hope someone or more here will be watching and giving info/quips throughout the case.
also, will someone here or elsewhere be able to 'save' a video of this (all or part).
Just watched the hearing. Absolutely no empathy shown towards victims of child abuse who initially received no justice from the organisation and therefore feel so traumatized that they later decide to dissacociate.
Justice McLennan and Angus Stewart pressed spinks and O'Brien on this and they both say that the person (victim) has shunned the congregation????
No empathy
No understanding
No consideration in taking into account the trauma caused to the victim or background as to why they chose to dissacociate.
Justice McLennan rightly stated that this policy is very cruel to the victim given what they have been through.
This hearing exposes the heartless nature of the Watchtower Society and what individuals will now know what to expect if they try to leave 'officially'.
This policy is NEVER discussed when new recruits are studying to become witnesses.
It will continue to be a CAPTIVE high control religion.
hi all.. this is a reasonable question and would love to know what you think is having the biggest impact on watchtower.
there is a plethora of websites talking negatively of watchtower.
there are the never ending court cases regarding child abuse allegations.
Hi all.
This is a reasonable question and would love to know what you think is having the biggest impact on Watchtower.
There is so much going on right now. There is a plethora of websites talking negatively of watchtower. There are the never ending court cases regarding child abuse allegations. Australian Royal Commission (no need to explain). The charity comissions (UK) investigation into the organisations safeguarding policy, The blood issue. The Society's cruel shunning policy. The many YouTube channels highlighting Watchtowers MANY wrongs.
So back to my original question. What is having the biggest impact on the Watchtower Bible and Tract SOCIETY?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).
the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .
as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.
Its hard not to Give up!
The GB's rigid controlling policies and 'their' continuous changing teachings cause its members to doubt the credibility of the Organisation..
hello.. i am a young 18 year old danish guy, who is a baptized jw.
since one year ago i have been maturing gradually and asking questions about many things, not only about jw stuff(which has caused some problems.
but nothing i couldnt handle with a bit of social skill).
Hi, COE, you might find this link interesting
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5759998393057280/stocks-shares-wtb-ts
on the door frame, on the door, door knocker, bell.. loud, very loud, regular, soft... gentle... or just pretended and never knocked at all?
we just had a city worker come a knocking on our front door and my responce after she left was, she should go down to the local kingdom haul and give lessons.
her knock was so loud, she could raise the dead.
I remember working with a timid little old sister. I would give the doors my usual 123 knock, but when it came to her, she would very gently tap the door with the back of her hand just once with her gloves on. A pin dropping would have been louder. I got the impression she was hoping no one came to the door!
background:.
my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.
i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.
What an amazing story doubtful1799. Welcome to the forum.
You clearly see what so many of us see about the organisation. It's as if they make things up as they go along such as the appointment of Jesus belongings as you pointed out.
I am in the same boat as you re fade. You are best not to allow the corporation heads (GB) the power over your life and ruin your family relationships. This religion is exactly as Angus Stewart (ARC) described - 'a captive religion' that uses a cruel shunning policy to prevent people from leaving.
I must say though, at least the elders in your hall sound somewhat fair to you. Personally I think a lot of elder bodies are afraid to rock the boat as can cause a lot of disruption within the congregation especially if you have family attending.
I wish you and your family all the very best
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