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  Born Twice - Die Once .... Born Once - Die Twice

  by Perry in

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  jesus taught that we must die unto ourselves, and allow the holy spirit to take up residence within us.

  some people get saved by simply inviting jesus into their hearts, to be the lord of their life.

  this serves as a countering force within the born-again christian to counterbalance the will of the flesh, which is still unsaved in this life and destined for destruction in imitation of our lord himself.. attempting to live the christian life without having this spirit within you is a waste of time at the minimum, and dangerous on the downside.

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  I think Batman and Superman are way better than the Silver Surfer
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  Do JW beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you?

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  I'm going to use the old illustration about a little poison in a large glass of water. Would you drink it?

  Under Hitler, Germany was a model of order and economic boom. Would you say that it was good for some?

  Iraq under Saddam was probably better off than it is now. Do you think they want to go back?
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  No Reason For JWs To Go To The MIdweek Meeting (CLAM)

  by JW_Rogue in

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  2. experiences

  everything that is done at the midweek meeting can now be done at home.

  the videos are online, the first talk is scripted, the bible highlights are scripted.

  you could get the same experience by just reading and watching the material from your tablet.

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  @Moly Sorry for your predicament. That song has always touched a nerve for me too. Particularly the line "when I was a child I had a fleeting glimpse." I knew at age 13 that this was BS. But waded through it until 45. Cannot get those years back but am making the best of the time ahead. My best to you and yours.......
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  July 2016 CLAM videos

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p46pnudcub0.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqeptnux3o.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iijg_-bz-k8.

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  What adult has conversations such as this that are beyond puerile?

  I realize that as a New Yorker my response to most of these demonstrations would be, "get the F outta here!"

  No, literally get the f outta here!

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  Fierce controversy over pastor's remarks about Orlando attack

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mass-shooting-orlando-gay-club-pulse-fierce-controversy-over-pastors-remarks-about-orlando-attack/.

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  @DJS I agree, with the exception that we needn't wait for the Govt to act. As individuals we need to voice whenever possible that this type of fundie hatred needs to stop.
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  First exchange in years about JW religion with my wife...

  by NVR2L8 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  today my wife showed me the new medical directive and power of attorney form she got at the meeting.

  surprisingly she asked if i wanted to fill mine!

  i have been inactive for 6 years and i don't go close to any jw gatherings because i don't want friends who only care for me unless i share their beliefs.

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  Actually, one would never use ethanol to clean a wound. Maybe rubbing or isopropyl alcohol would be more appropriate although not medically recommended. Usually an anti bacterial soap and water are best.

  I would rather drink enough ethanol to not feel the pain of the wound than to use it to disinfect said wound.

  So while your DW is technically correct, I still would decline to fill out the stupid blood card. Cheers!
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  A question JWs almost never ask, but should

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. beliefs

  it occurs to me, if i was starting from scratch choosing a religion or belief system to join, there's one good question i should like answered first:.

  does this religion promote a way of life and view of the world that would be satisfying even if not a single word of its doctrines are true?

  if jws honestly answered that question i doubt many would say it's a good choice.

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  If I was starting from scratch, I think the better question would be, "Why do I need to attach myself to a religion to have a satisfying life?"
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  Why are some that post here JW apologists?

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.

  those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.

  those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.

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  My rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board. Those who at once rail against the JW's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions. Those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.

  I understand the power of cognitive dissonance. I've been there myself. But why, under any circumstance, would you want to lend any credence whatsoever to an evil cult? I once knew a member of the Hitler Youth. He often recalled how orderly, clean and prosperous Germany became after the Nazi party took over. I remember thinking that it was this early indoctrination that made the witness propaganda appeal to him. A world where the "final solution" was to eliminate an entire class (race) of people that stood in the way of paradise. Does this sound familiar?

  In my opinion, if circumstances permitted, if there were some justification, the leaders of the WT would have no qualms about taking matters into their own hands. They would look upon genocide as a righteous tool and a mandate from the most high. That is the evil that resides in all fundamentalist religion.

  So think about that when you want to give the witnesses a break because they "dress so well."
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  JWs aren't stupid

  by cognisonance in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the title is a bit of click bait.

  but here's the alternative title: what stupid beliefs/ideas did you have while an active jw.. i think the majority of jws that don't have obvious mental health issues are not stupid, just un/under-educated.

  for example, i now accept evolution as a thing, not a controversy or conjecture.

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  I remember the line where if you discover a house in the middle of the woods you would assume it has a builder right?

  I guess they believe in the "junkyard tornado" theory
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  The last video in the 2016 convention...

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  2. beliefs

  ...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.

  bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.

  he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.

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  So in the paradise earth, all the black chicks will still have access to hair straightening products and salons?

  Sorry, just an observation......

  Also, anyone notice that these videos are relatively short to match the attention span of their audience?

  @problemaddict I've been to San Diego and remember the ridiculous crowds and heat of 1984 affectionately known as "The Temple of Doom " assembly because of the heat and thunderstorms.