Posts by pale.emperor

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I left the organization

by Issa in

i left the organization.

my awakening was this month of july, the first week of july.

i couldn't answer my own questions about the organization or the doctrines, i couldn't understand the prophecies, i couldn't figure quite well what i was feeling.

pale.emperor

Great news. Your life starts now!!

There seems to be a lot leaving lately. This is good news.

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recently quit being a jw because i realised that beyond armageddon i was going to be ruled by people who cover up child abuse, not telling the congregations by their letter where the money they donated in the box is going towards paying compensation for legal battles which they caused, and also i was bullied by elders and discriminated against for being homosexual, even though i am not practicing it.

it wasn't until i threatened legal action for a breach of confidence that the elders were deleted.

so through the media and my own personal experience, i realised that they were no different to corrupt businesses in the world.

pale.emperor

Welcome friend. Im from Liverpool. PM me if you need a chat. I've been out just over a year.

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Who Is The Most Unlike-Able Member Of The Governing Body?

by pale.emperor in

vote here: https://goo.gl/hynuaz.

results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxm2j.

pale.emperor

And the winner is... TIGHTPANTS TONY!!

A winner by a landslide. It's interesting that nobody voted for Mark Sanderson. I expected more disdain for Gerrit Losch than for Stephen Lett to be honest.

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Why I like this site

by UnshackleTheChains in

the reason i like this site is in the fact that it speaks the truth warts and all.

the very title 'jehovahs witness discussion forum' draws the avarage witness to the site, perhaps thinking it is 'apostate' free.. the good thing is that jw's can read the real truth about the organisation/society...no holds barred.

my hope is that more people caught up in this captive religious organisation will open their eyes to reality!.

pale.emperor

If it wern't for this site i dont know where i'd be right now.

I notice that the fully-in JW who joins up to try and debunk us last a few days at most then they scurry away.

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BBC News "The ex-Jehovah's Witnesses shunned by their families"

by snare&racket in

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bbc news website has this linked on front page.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

pale.emperor

I just read this article and my first thought is that my family is going to dismiss it because "No one gets DF'd for missing a memorial."

I agree. In fact i used to dismiss news articles that criticized JWs because they'd always make an exaggeration.

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Am I selfish?

by Jules Saturn in

tonight i had an argument with both my parents.

my parents are aware of my feelings towards the organization, and it saddens them because i am their first born son.

they had high expectations of me, my father dreamt of him and i serving together as elders.

pale.emperor

Guilt is a powerful motivator, and it's used by cults excessively to make you do what the cult wants you to do. It's important to do what YOU feel is right otherwise you'll feel the other emotions that the cult uses excessively... unworthy, anger, controlled.

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Who Is The Most Unlike-Able Member Of The Governing Body?

by pale.emperor in

vote here: https://goo.gl/hynuaz.

results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxm2j.

pale.emperor

Im surprised people have voted Stephen Lett. He's a bumbling old fool but i think he genuinely believes the stuff he's saying. I thought it'd be a Tony Tightpants washout.

The rest are narcissists.

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The old "Book Study Group"

by The Fall Guy in

in the june 2004 kingdom ministry, the self-appointed "faithful slave" published this spiritual exhortation as a q&a item - "the congregation book study—why we need it.

three years later, in 2007 - in the august kingdom ministry - the same "slave" issued this reminder - "how the congregation book study arrangement helps us.

but surprise, surprise - within a few short months the "slave" decided that jehovah had had a change of heart, and now decided that the book study in homes - with all of its alleged benefits - was superfluous: .

pale.emperor

I remember my bookshelf being THE topic of conversation everytime an elder visited my home. My theology collection is vast. I had bibles in many translations and they didnt like it.

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Who Is The Most Unlike-Able Member Of The Governing Body?

by pale.emperor in

vote here: https://goo.gl/hynuaz.

results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxm2j.

pale.emperor

Vote here: https://goo.gl/Hynuaz

Results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxM2j

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UN Association

by Jules Saturn in

so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

pale.emperor

I'm sure the vast majority dont know about it. I certainly didn't when i was in. I get the following response whenever i bring this up:

1. If I'm not holding a copy of the UN letter - they deny it and say it'll be an apostate lie and "i cant believe you were taken in by it"

2. If i am holding it - they deny it and say it's an apostate lie and "i cant believe you were taken in by it"

3. If i show them the letter and Watchtowers reply about it only being so they could access the library they say "they're imperfect men, they make mistakes, doesn't that show you how humble they are?"