Granny Grace.. you are loved by so many on here, whether they still believe in God or not. Please don't go!!
tornapart
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Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!
by mouthy init has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .
i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.
when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.
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Purpose of witnessing and preaching?
by leaving_quietly in1 timothy 2:1-7. first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions, so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.
3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god, 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
5 for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, a man, christ jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for allthis is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.
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tornapart
Problem is, you ask most JW R&F if Jesus is their mediator and they'll say yes. You might also need some back up evidence where the WT has clearly stated that Jesus is only mediator for 144,000.
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Elder blows a head gasket
by Crazyguy inok so today while at breakfast get a phone call fom my daughter asking were i am because an elder/ friend had stoped by my house hoping to see me.
its been a few months since ive seen this guy and the only one that seems to actually care.
so anyway he meets me at were i was having breakfast and we start to talk.
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tornapart
This is what really did it for me.
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Could there really be something to the UFO phenomena? Amazing documentary
by yadda yadda 2 init's easy to just poo-poo the ufo thing, especially if you're naturally very skeptical after your jw experience as i am, but when you see documentary's like this it seems undeniable that some kind of inexplicable phenomenon is occuring.
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could vehement deniars of the ufo phenomenon please suspend their criticisms until they've at least watched the whole documentary, to be fair to others who are more open-minded on this subject.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjismjxshpg.
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tornapart
A UFO is simply an Unidentified Flying Object. I believe they exist, whatever they are and wherever they are from. Too many people have seen strange things to say it's a figment of imagination. What they are though is another thing. Another 'universe', 'dimension', secret technology, who knows? It would be very interesting to find out for sure! It would be rather scary to be invaded by extra terrestrials though... a sort of 'War of the Worlds'..
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Apostasy: Year Two
by Londo111 inhttp://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242023/1/a-year-in-the-e2809capostasye2809d#.un6uaxb1kso.
today is my two-year anniversary of joining jwn.
whats new with me?
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tornapart
You've come a long way in those two years bro! More than I have! LOL
You're doing a great job with your videos. I think you're so right what you say about JWs. After all, many of them are family and friends we've had for years. They need videos like these, it's ones like this that gets the thinking ones thinking!
Hope your next year goes even better!
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Were You Tough On Your Fellow Witnesses?
by minimus inwhen i was younger, i saw things as a young, inexperienced man.
i thought i knew it all, but time would prove otherwise.
i believed that as long as you accepted "mother's" counsel, then everyone should just follow jehovah's organization's guidance.. i realized some witnesses actually loved that thought, that it's either black or white.
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tornapart
Minimus, I think you would have been a lovely elder... such a shame that all the good ones eventually go. I'm still 'in' and happy that the elders in our cong are all lovely too. Really kind people trying thier hardest to help and care for others against the odds. If that changes, there would be nothinig that would keep me in, family or not.
Of course they get things wrong sometimes, because they are 'following orders' but I don't think any of them are 'tough'. Like all JWs they have been mislead. The blind leading the blind.
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Spring hill fl JW kid is forced to pledge allegiance tothe flag
by DS211 insaw this article on yahoo.
there was a little jw kid whose teacher made him stand up and salute the flag and/or say the pledge in class.
he went to the administrator and she got suspended.....my lord the jws are going to be shouting great trib over this.
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tornapart
No one, adult or child should be forced to do something that goes against their conscience, regardless of whether others think it's right or wrong. It's cruel, especially to a child.
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My adorable 5 year son explaining the meaning of life
by jwfacts ini asked my son quite randomly before bed what he thinks the meaning of life is.
like always, his answer brought a smile to my face.
he said, "to have a great time .. to have fun and have friends ... and be happy.
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tornapart
Ah! He's so adorable! You must be so proud of him Paul!
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That time of the year once more, Xmas gifts. Help
by jam insince the family members are getting older these days there are.
only a small number of kids that still look forward for santa clause in.
the family.
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tornapart
How about all clubbing together and buying some children's toys to donate to a local children's home?
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JW Apolgist rant here...and confession.
by Julia Orwell ini really don't like people disparaging active jws on this site by calling them stupid, idiots, morons and that, and making out like they're willing puppets to the gb or cruel at heart.
or describing them like they're puke or as having no desire to learn or listen.. to you, all these things may be true.
we all have opinions and are entitled to them.
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tornapart
I actually apologised to my sons the other day for the way I'd brought them up to see things a certain way (a judgemental way) and that now I no longer see things that way. My sons are all grown and all in and I am unravelling all those wrong ideas I'd implanted in their minds over all those years. It is lovely to see the unravelling going on, like seeing blossoms opening on a flower and all the feelings of guilt for 'not doing enough' dropping away. They are seeing that being a good husband/father, being kind and caring to other people (ALL people) is far more important than sitting in a meeting or going knocking on doors. They view disfellowshiped people differently now and don't feel so tied to do everything the WT says or not thinking outside the box or thinking independent thoughts.