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  Is it wrong to stay in?

  by confusedteenager in

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  i feel like, i don't believe in the majority of what the gb teaches, but all of my friends and family are invested in this organization and i feel it would be easier on me to just play the part and continue going through the motions then try to leave right now.

  is this taking the coward way out?.

  i just feel like i wouldn't have much to look forward if i stepped away..

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  tornapart

  I'm still in. My family and lifelong friends are all JWs. It's hard because you have to play the game. Pretend. If you can live with it and don't want to lose anyone it can be done. I have a safety valve because my hubby knows exactly how I feel and doesn't push me, he leaves me to my own devices. If I can't stomach going for a while then I don't. FS is at an absolute minimum I can get away with and keep under the radar. So far it's worked for me and I've been mentally out for over a year now.
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  Would Elders You Knew Have Ordered Stonings If They Could Have?

  by Cold Steel in

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  for those of you who used to be jws, or who are active, if the society was in charge of the earth, how many people do you think you would have seen stoned during your lifetimes?

  i realize some elders can be zealous about their work, but if they'd actually had administrative authority to have kh members stoned to death, how many elders did you know who would have been zealous enough to really order them?.

  did you know any elders who would have ordered stonings, even if the condemned people had been willing to repent?.

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  Whenever I see photos like that from our era the more I think that stoning never actually came from God but was a man-made law. Especially with Jesus' reaction to it. Maybe as justice for a cold blooded murderer it was, but not for anything else.

  Aunt Connie... you need to get away from your cold-hearted husband.
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  Field Service Requirements

  by DATA-DOG in

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  has there ever been any official letters stating the amount of field service required to be considered exemplary?

  usually the number given is 10hrs, but if you look up " 10 hours " in the cd-library you get 14 hits.

  none from the bible of course, and only 3-5 are related to field service.

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  Our congregation only had a 5 hour average last month... the calls to do more more more don't seem to be working here.. LOL
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  The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.

  the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.

  the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.

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  tornapart

  The father of the boy himself said that his son should hang for what he did. Poverty is no excuse for this.

  I saw a documentary about some people living in a place like this next to the Ganges. They were hardworking and optimistic, dreamers even. One in particular struck me because he was always smiling. He worked 13 hour days, 27 and a half days in a fortnight making clay cups to sell. He had a mattress on the floor where he worked and he bathed in the river. The only time he looked sad was when he thought of his wife and child that he'd not seen for 6 months. Eventually he saved enough money to rent a single room in a shack so he could bring his wife and child to live with him. His eyes sparkled and he had a zest for life and he never stopped smiling. There were several others that had the same happy attitude. I couldn't envisage any of them doing what that gang did!
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  Anyone here who is still a Jehovahs Witness and havent given up yet, Please answer me!

  by Vienna Angelika in

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  i am wanting to connect to current jws who are going through a tough time and are going through a similar time as me.

  not any jw haters, just balanced concerned jws who havent quite given up yet..

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  tornapart

  I'm still in because of family and close friends.
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  Talesin - R U Still Here?

  by truthlover in

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  havent seen you post recently - enjoy them are you not well?.

  anybody know.

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  Welcome back Tal!
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  Guess I'm going to have to believe in evolution after all!

  by tornapart in

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  a new species commonly known as 'homoslackass erectus'.... so that's why they have to wear those pants/trousers!!

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  No atheists going to say anything? LOL
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  The Other Side of the Indian Rape Story

  by fulltimestudent in

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  i'm posting this story, not to defend an indefensible act, but to try to provide some balance.

  the fact is that so many indians exist in a poverty so deep that it's difficult for westerners to even understand.

  the youngest of the rapists in the now world known rape story, according to this uk, independent newspaper story, grew up in that world that seems hopeless.

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  Not sure how being poor and not having opportunities for sex or being young makes it excusable for someone to rape, torture and murder someone else... how can there be any balance in that?! I'm sure the parents of the young girl will want justice and if that means hanging then he should hang. He knew what he was doing.
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  reinstatement tries

  by Honeybucket in

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  i am looking for the reinstatement guidelines for someone who has been actively trying to get reinstated for 2 years and have put in a reinstatement letter 3x in those two years but was denied everytime.

  are the elders just making an example of them, have they permenately been kicked out, or maybe these people dont want to come back and this story is part of their fade.. .

  has anyone ever heard of people not getting reinstated.

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  I know of two cases.. two different congregations. One couple it took them 5 years to get reinstated, they had to get a CO involved otherwise it probably would never have happened. Another couple only one year. Think it depends on the congregation.
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  One experience in our old Kingdom Hall that still HAUNTS me

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  the following is a true experience and my daughter gojira101 will verify that it happened to her.

  an experience from our family's past that still haunts me and started my questioning whether this is the true organization of god or not.. my daughter, who has always been a good kid, never gave us any problems [she's an adult now] started regular pioneering.

  within a few weeks of her starting, she fell on a steep hill and tore open her knee and had to have several stitches.

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  Having been a reg pioneer in my younger years and having an accident and not getting my time in I can really feel for your daughter. For me it was back in the 70's when things were much more relaxed. The elders encouraged me. I even wrote to the society apologising () and suggesting I came off the list. They sent a lovely encouraging letter back. (That would NEVER happen now!)

  If that happened here in my cong. now to any pioneer, I think I'd be out of the door and not looking back.