On that note I am locking this thread.
It'll give time to take the 'heat' out of this and also because this thread has gone 'off topic'.
i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.
i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!
she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .
On that note I am locking this thread.
It'll give time to take the 'heat' out of this and also because this thread has gone 'off topic'.
i was just looking through the june 15 study wt and on page 9 at the bottem of paragraph 10 it says.... additional "disgusting things" include acts of pedophilia and other forms of sexual immorality committed by clergymen and tolerated by the church authorities.
is it any wonder that jehovah god will soon rid this earth of false religion?.
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tolerated by the church authorities
Huh? tolerated????
women - do you love being around men?
i only ask because i realise that for over 20 years i just love being around women.
it's not just for sexual reasons either, though that's important sometimes, i just really like being around women.
i've asked afew witnesses at work and around town about no more bookstudy.........they are all so relieved!
one elder with four kids said..."it will make things alot easier, with rushing home from work, the society understands our needs.
"......another brother said: "it's great, now we can go to the cinema on half price tuesday's!
I can't help but feel that they've made a huge mistake.
A feature of the early christian church was that they met in private homes. The modern-day churches seem to recognise that by encouraging their members to meet in "cell groups" for Bible study. Indeed, this is the case in the church I attend. It's recognised that small groups actually strengthen the whole church body.
The Borg seems to increasingly be looking to assemble in larger and larger gatherings. Yeah, I know it's all about control. Still, I can't help but feel they've picked on the wrong gathering to eliminate.
Funny how I'd conducted group Bible studies in the Borg for decades and now find myself leading a Bible study group in a church! Funny old world, ain't it?
Of course the difference is that we do actually study the Bible and not a book.
what expressions get you going?.
i like "it's all good!!!
".
And another thing..................
how come elders can "step down" ?
When did they ever 'step up' ? Huh?
what expressions get you going?.
i like "it's all good!!!
".
Remember how elders would exhort us to "stay in the middle of God's organisation" for safety?
Ain't that stupid? How the hell can everyone stay in the middle???? By definition, it'd be impossible, someone has to be on the outside!!!!
Stupid.
just in case you've not got a copy yet:.
studies for june.
repudiate "valueless things".
Just in case you've not got a copy yet:
Repudiate "Valueless Things"
Study Review
Seek God's Guidance in all Things
Study Review
Young People, Remember Your Grand Creator Now
Marriage and parenthood in This Time of the End
Study Review
What Makes Life Worthwhile?
Study Review
And then there's the pictures with their captions to reinforce control:. Here's the captions:
And notice how they try to have it both ways with their "last days" doctrine? Even though they repudiated any time span ingredient, they still pepper their writings with exhortations to do more because there isn't much time left etc etc - just like as if nothing in their teachings had changed.
Aren't you glad you're missing all this? !!
hello al!
i am an old poster from this websites early days.
i was here a lot during 2001-2003. during the days of posters like:.
G'day Shauna,
Those were the days, eh? I think for many, like yourself, we've been able to get on with life and make a very happy new one. Yes, there is life after the borg! And it's great.
All the best for your future travelling along the road to freedom.
Cheers, Ozzie
Freedom means not having to wear a tie.
today to my surprise i found my name mentioned on a cesnur site.
it is authored by some john b. brown.
anyone know who this guy is?.
PUC's posting account has been deleted.
an old pioneer friend told me recently that the bethel is moving from brooklyn.
she learned this at pioneer school from the cos who taught the school.
also they warned of many changes to come.
they are moving most of it to Patterson. Probably cheaper location and that Brooklyn Heights property is very valuable.
Yet the fuel costs would be higher. Ironic, isn't it?