Posts by Londo111

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I'm writing a letter to my country's branch

by Ray Frankz in

hi everyone.. well, i have some good news.

after having a terrible moment arguing with my mom about the 1914 teaching and all it evolves (she get really upset and i felt great regret for starting the argument) she came to me next day and started talking with a much more open mind, and she talked about a lot of concerns too.. she and my father naivily expressed the wish to write to bethel to ask about 607bc.

i told in all the possible ways it wouldn't work.

Londo111

I had to look this up. The simplified publication is called "What Can the Bible Teach Us?"

Here is the section in the back of the book.

In retrospect, it so full of holes I can't believe I ever bought any of this.

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22 WHY IS THE YEAR 1914 SO IMPORTANT?

The prophecy in Daniel chapter 4 teaches us that God would set up his Kingdom in 1914.

The prophecy: Jehovah gave King Nebuchadnezzar a prophetic dream about a large tree that was chopped down. In the dream, a band of iron and copper was put around the tree’s stump to stop it from growing for a period of “seven times.” After that, the tree would grow again.—Daniel 4:1, 10-16.

What the prophecy means for us: The tree represents God’s rulership. For many years, Jehovah used kings in Jerusalem to rule over the nation of Israel. (1 Chronicles 29:23) But those kings became unfaithful, and their rulership ended. Jerusalem was destroyed in the year 607 B.C.E. That was the start of the “seven times.” (2 Kings 25:1, 8-10; Ezekiel 21:25-27) When Jesus said, “Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled,” he was talking about the “seven times.” (Luke 21:24) So the “seven times” did not end when Jesus was on earth. Jehovah promised to appoint a King at the end of the “seven times.” The rulership of this new King, Jesus, would bring great blessings for God’s people all over the earth, forever.—Luke 1:30-33.

The length of the “seven times”: The “seven times” lasted for 2,520 years. If we count 2,520 years from the year 607 B.C.E., we end up at the year 1914. That was when Jehovah made Jesus, the Messiah, King of God’s Kingdom in heaven.

How do we get the number 2,520? The Bible says that three and a half times equal 1,260 days. (Revelation 12:6, 14) So “seven times” is double that number, or 2,520 days. The 2,520 days are equal to 2,520 years because of the prophetic rule “a day for a year.”—Numbers 14:34; Ezekiel 4:6.

▸ Chap. 8, par. 23

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The "slave's" dogma depicts Satan as being more powerful than Jehovah!

by The Fall Guy in

according to the org's "guardians of doctrine," (g.o.d.

's) the figurative woman who's mentioned in revelation chapter 12 is none other than god almighty's heavenly organization - with its myriads upon myriads of powerful spirit creatures.. it-2 p. 187 - "it would follow that the “woman” is god’s “wife,” the “jerusalem above,” the “mother” of christ and his spiritual brothers.

" jv chap.

Londo111

Satan is an important god in the JW pantheon, one that always has to be taken into account.

If you pray to Jehovah aloud, Satan might hear and use what you are praying about against you! If you watch a movie or read a book, it might invite Satan's angels into your life. If you buy an item at a yardsale, his minions might tag along.

When in doubt, do without! Get rid of any suspected demonic item...burn in! It's a necessary sacrifice so that the "god of this system" will be appeased and you won't draw his ire.

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UK Charity Commision reports on Moston, Manchester Congregation.

by snugglebunny in

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/investigation-leads-to-improvements-in-safeguarding-at-jehovahs-witnesses-charity.

Londo111

This seems to just be the local congregation...the Branch is still being investigated.

Also it finds elders "did not provide accurate and complete answers’ about issues under investigation."

And: "As our report makes clear, the victims of abuse were badly let down".

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Have you ever looked back at your early posts on here?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

no doubt we are all overjoyed at how we have progressed since breaking the shackles of the society!.

for those that have been here on this forum for some time, have you ever looked back at the version of "you" that first started posting here, and compared yourself with where you are at now?.

i am overjoyed at how much i have grown as a person!.

Londo111

Sometimes I accidentally have read an old posting, smile in agreement, and then look to see who posted it, only to realize it was me. That is not meant as conceited as it sounds.

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I left the organization

by Issa in

i left the organization.

my awakening was this month of july, the first week of july.

i couldn't answer my own questions about the organization or the doctrines, i couldn't understand the prophecies, i couldn't figure quite well what i was feeling.

Londo111

Congrats. The difference between you and those who have not left is you did research. Many JWs couldn't explain or even understand their own beliefs, it goes over their head, and they don't examine it. And many times they are too too afraid to.

I would encourage you to wait on your decision to DA. Continue to quietly research, work toward fading if you can. After the emotions calm down, then you could be in a better position where the DA route is best for you.

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Do You Ever Think Of ALL The Wasted Time Because You Were a JW?

by minimus in

jw
friends

the longer you are out the more you see how a cult steals all your time, resources and energy.

we wasted so much because we were witnesses!

👎.

Londo111

All the time.

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UN Association

by Jules Saturn in

so this happened awhile back ago, i was talking to this bethelite that i respect, i consider him to be very sincere.

this was during the time i had discovered the un association the society had as an ngo.

i already knew the answer, but to see his response, i asked him "was the society ever part of the united nations?

Londo111

Those who can't...end up places like here.

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Who Is The Most Unlike-Able Member Of The Governing Body?

by pale.emperor in

vote here: https://goo.gl/hynuaz.

results will be here: https://goo.gl/xsxm2j.

Londo111

I'm sure in those brief moments when their authentic self surfaces over the cult identity, they can be likable.

But this is going by how likable as public figures they are.

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Meeting attendance for elders

by dkztcequ in

what is the minimum meeting attendace for someone, who is of good health, has not children doesn't work in a job that requires travel and lives about 3 miles from the kh?

is 50% for clam and 75% for watchtower acceptable?.

Londo111

Yep. 100% attendance is expected of all JWs, unless they have health issues. Otherwise, there is no excuse and they are doomed to eternal destruction. I was never an elder, only made it to ministerial servant, but even ministerial servant have to go above and beyond the average publisher, an elders beyond that.

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The REAL Reason I Stopped Going to Meetings

by NoviceLocs14 in

to sum it up in all one word...pride.. i've always kind of attributed my subconscious "fade" to shame for living a double life by dating my non-jw boyfriend (now husband) while serving as a pioneer in the foreign language field.

but i was actually pretty regular for awhile.. my pioneer hours did start to dwindle, however.

i had always struggled with the hourly requirement, but i was really struggling now.

Londo111

Not wanting to be humiliated is not pride.

There's a difference between pride and healthy self-esteem that this cult robs people of. These men crossed personal and private boundaries.