As Steven Hassan said, "Cult members naturally feel they know more about what's going on in their group than outsiders do, but in counseling ex-members I find that they often know the least."
Londo111
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JW org Legal Developments Menu Silent on Australian Royal Commission of Inquiry
by steve2 ingo to the legal developments menu on jw org.
click on legal developments by region.
you will find several countries listed where the ministry and practice of jws is banned and/or constrained.
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Londo111
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When the CO comes a knocking.
by Thisismein1972 ini was going to reply to another thread, but thought this might deserve a separate topic.. my observations when i was a still in.. the announcement that jesus christ (the co) is visiting our local kh.. would anyone like to "volunteer" their time, money and accommodation for jesus christ.. all ass lickers of said kh come forward to receive jesus christ.
a concerted effort for all to be out in the ministry that week, along with panicking elders visiting homes of those who have not been at the meetings for at least a week, offering "encouragement" so that the number of attendance is up for the week visit.. the self righteous in the kh who would never speak to you (pioneers included) and look down their noses at you all of a sudden start to speak to you.. during the visit, the elders are on their best behavior, thanking everyone who answers up.
the pioneers are martyring themselves by making cakes and practically washing the feet of the jesus christ.. the attendance does rise, with studies being brought along, to show jesus christ what a good little jw they are.. most indoctrinated jw's practically shoot each other to have a turn on the ministry with jesus christ!.
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Londo111
Ah yes, the green handshakes as well.
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Standing for the National Anthem?
by eyeslice2 inwe are currently living in a country where at the cinema the national anthem is played before the start of the movie and it is law that you stand.
does anyone know what current jw thinking is on this?
i know there has been various changes over the years.
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Londo111
All this made me stand out at school events and sometimes earned the ire of teachers and students.
When I was a JW, I was taught:
If the national anthem was played first, I could not stand.
If the flag salute came first, I could stand and not salute. If AFTERWARD, they played the national anthem, I could remain standing since I was already.
These rules seem inconsistent and didn't make much sense to me. I couldn't back it up from the Bible. But I complied.
Earlier this year, I attended a college graduation where the national anthem was played. My then girlfriend (then wife) made me cover my heart during the national anthem. Truth be told, after all these years, it felt like an empty ritual and was pretty meaningless to me.
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Who would vote to disband the JW organisation?
by Half banana infrom their history, it is evident that jehovah's witnesses are just another doomsday cult.. cults are run by autocrats.
on purpose they are ideologically fixated and they demand that their devotees hold the same absolute certainty of belief without regard for evidence.
the suspension of critical thought is encouraged and by focussing on the objectives of the cult belief in a like minded community, it gives both a sense of direction within a sort of ‘family’ and a hope of paradise perfection.. the leaders have everything to gain by controlling their followers; all the income goes in their direction.. democracy has strictly no part in a running cult.
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Londo111
If I could wave a magic wand, disband for sure.
If disband means ban, then no. That would only strengthen the organization.
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When the CO comes a knocking.
by Thisismein1972 ini was going to reply to another thread, but thought this might deserve a separate topic.. my observations when i was a still in.. the announcement that jesus christ (the co) is visiting our local kh.. would anyone like to "volunteer" their time, money and accommodation for jesus christ.. all ass lickers of said kh come forward to receive jesus christ.
a concerted effort for all to be out in the ministry that week, along with panicking elders visiting homes of those who have not been at the meetings for at least a week, offering "encouragement" so that the number of attendance is up for the week visit.. the self righteous in the kh who would never speak to you (pioneers included) and look down their noses at you all of a sudden start to speak to you.. during the visit, the elders are on their best behavior, thanking everyone who answers up.
the pioneers are martyring themselves by making cakes and practically washing the feet of the jesus christ.. the attendance does rise, with studies being brought along, to show jesus christ what a good little jw they are.. most indoctrinated jw's practically shoot each other to have a turn on the ministry with jesus christ!.
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Londo111
So true.
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Elder wants to stop by with the CO for a visit .
by NikL inso i got a text from an elder who i consider one of the good guys and a friend in his own way.. he asked if he could bring the co by for a visit.
he said it would be "just a pleasant call and visit and will hopefully encourage my wife".
he says that "he knows she is dealing with a ton of pressure".. in all my years around the organization, i never had a visit from the circuit overseer.
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Londo111
What ShirleyW & DJS said.
When the CO comes to town, elders scramble to do what they haven't done in the last 6 months. And they also find "calls" to take the CO on.
If they insist on coming, if you know when, get out of the house for a few hours. The CO is too busy with so many matters and probably has bigger fish to fry.
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WELL BEARDS ARE STILL A NO NO!!!!!!
by DwainBowman inwell beards are still a no no!!!!!!.
in a new letter from the branch/gb nut's, beards are not acceptable in the us branch area!!!!!!.
my eldub brother in law, shared this today.
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Londo111
I'm not a bit surprised that the answer is no.
Anyone who read between the lines of the paragraph about beard should have come to that conclusion. It read, "It's okay", but meant, "Don't!"
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Daily text for 12-7-2016 Gods promises "Dynamic"?
by NikL inwife read me the daily text this morning out of the blue this morning and a couple of sentences stuck out in my head.. all of jehovah’s promises are dynamic, not static, because he is constantly working toward their fulfillment.
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46:10; 55:11) once a person realizes this about jehovah’s word, what he reads in the bible can exert a powerful force in his life.. .
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Londo111
Underlying message: why aren’t YOU more dynamic? Get moving. Do more!
Question for the writer of this article: Why would something dynamic wait for a person’s realization before it exerts ‘a powerful force’. That doesn’t seem that dynamic.
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"You Wouldn't Believe How Many Have Crawled Back To The Meetings"
by minimus inthat's a comment i heard from an elder i haven't seen in over a decade, yesterday.
i mentioned it all on my other thread.
i responded that i knew of no one that was crawling back to the meetings and gave him an incredulous hearty chuckle.
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Londo111
It could be that the ramping up of shunning, even on the inactive, might be having an effect of a few.
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Oh, How to Choose What to Follow in the Mosaic Law...
by Sorry inmy sarcasm will get me df'd one day.
after being disgusted by the bs of the sunday meeting, i chatted with one inactive brother came back for that one meeting.
i can't exactly remember how it came up, but he told me and a sister whose a close friend of mine that she shouldn't be so uptight, we're no longer under the mosaic law.
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Londo111
It becomes a matter of interpretation of what 'principles' the Mosaic law was getting at...and the only ones that are allowed to derive those principles are the Governing Body
And as Ray Franz said the difference in Watchtower theology because principles and law are a "distinction without a difference". After all, people can be disfellowshipped and shunned for not adhering to the principles the Governing Body comes up with.