Posts by Londo111

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

Londo111

If I understand correctly, Watchtower had to pick up his medical bills.

He also disapproved of makeup and called women with makeup walking by "hussies".

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"Privileges"

by minimus in

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within the organization, jehovah's witnesses know that they must be dutiful and set an example for "worldly ones" as well as for their own brotherhood.

if a witness fails in setting the proper example, they may lose some 'privileges"..... what privileges did you look to have and what privileges did you lose?

?.

A few years before I left, I became a low hour publisher. Field service was getting harder and harder for me in terms of anxiety. The elders took away “microphone privileges” to “encourage” me to pick up my hours. At the time, I found it more discouraging and did not help my anxiety or hours.

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What was the craziest sight you brothers seen running mikes ?

by Chook in

eg ,babies jump where they shouldn't, those hairy old sisters.....

Londo111

A fellow mike-carrier tripped over a big bookbag that was in the aisle.

Another time, in a congregation with pole mikes, I accidentally hit a lady in the mouth and got lipstick on them mike.

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Did you ever have a discussion with an apostate that helped your journey out.

by jwfacts in

there seems to be a number of different ways that apostates try to get jehovah's witnesses realise they do not have the truth, ranging from subtle comments to aggressive attacks.

do you have any that looking back helped you finally leave.

some of the methods include:.

Londo111

In 1990, when visiting Bethel, a whole crowd of apostates were in front protesting, holding up signs about Jesus being their mediator too, ect… None of that helped, it frightened me. Then later I saw Mr. Coffee, which cemented into my head what apostates were.

A person in my congregation in the late 90’s who I befriended said things that in retrospect were seeds to try to help me wake up. For instance, he mentioned about early JWs teaching that Jehovah lived around a star. I considered that hogwash.

Later, I discovered he looked at both a video of Ray Franz and gay porn on my computer. Therefore, I with another friend decided to approach him first to report himself to the elders. Poor guy was shaking like a leaf. I don’t think we ever pursued matters to the point of reporting him. Needless to say, the little things he said didn’t help me think, because he didn’t really present documented proof.

Over the years I accidently stumbled upon crazy looking websites with lots of ranting, like Danny Hazzard or Rick Fearon, and they came across exactly like the angry, bitter apostates Watchtower talked about. That didn’t help me.

I remember a forum I accidently stumbled across with post from the “Liberal Elder”, and a post where a woman said she was a pioneer and just discovered 607 BC was wrong. I considered these places traps. I didn’t believe for a moment that the poster was a pioneer, but rather an apostate pretending to be one.

Years later, when I first started to research 607 BC as a litmus test, looking for neutral sources, I did inevitably come across “apostate” sites, like this one or JWfacts. However, I basically assumed that I would have to weed through the lies, half-truths, and misrepresentations, with a kernel of truth here and there. However, over many months, I began to realize that sites like JWfacts were in fact 100% factual, whereas Watchtower were the ones being deceitful.

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Watchtower Library Won't Run

by sfbayarea in

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i have 4 computers that are all running windows 10 version 1703.. 1. laptop that came with windows 10 was updated to version 1703 - watchtower library runs fine.

2. laptop that came with windows 8 was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library runs fine.

3. laptop that came with windows 7 64 home was updated to windows 10 for free - watchtower library does not run.

Londo111

Modern computers know how to reject garbage, screen for viruses, ect...

Looks like all your machines are operating as they should.

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Window Cleaners?

by nicolaou in

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like a lot of others here, i gave higher education a miss when i left school (1980).

under the encouragement of the society i pioneered for three years instead!.

now i clean windows for a living.

Londo111

In my area, JWs become painters.

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The org and going beyond what is written

by CitizenofEarth in

hello there.. my father just claimed that the good thing about being a witness was how they just let the bible interpret itself.

now i know the irony in this statement, but i dont know what to show him that he just cant discard with some ignorant excuse.

any ideas?

Londo111

Going beyond what it written...where would we start?

Pioneering.

Turning in field service time.

Literature placement.

Ect, ect...

Heck, even the words Governing Body and Organization is nowhere to be found in the Bible.

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1925 versus 1975

by Sour Grapes in

in the early 1970's i was an elder who was convinced by the other elders in the congregation that armageddon was coming by the end of 1975. at that time, as an elder, i knew that in the early 1920's the witnesses thought that in 1925 christendom would be destroyed and the faithful men of old, abraham, isaac, noah, etc., would be resurrected to earth.

i knew those were failed prophecies yet it did not bother me.

as i ponder why it didn't shake my faith, i must have given the borg a pass since it was so long ago or maybe because the light is getting brighter.. i am afraid that the same thing is going to happen with the 1975 video at the assemblies.

Londo111

It was the failed 1925 date that had Judge Rutherford say the truest words he had ever uttered in his life, "I made an ass of myself."

Indeed.