last year saw the elimination of the district overseer...and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. how long until the circuit overseer is no more?
of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid.
they would have to care for their own expenses.
Last year saw the elimination of the district overseer…and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. How long until the circuit overseer is no more?
Of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid. They would have to care for their own expenses. And they might be local to the circuit…a kind of super-COBE. I know there was a rumor to this effect a number of years ago, but it never transpired.
it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.
most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.
there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.
i have been pondering about this for a while.
i wrote to cedars at some point an offered to help translate his articles into spanish but the answer was that they had all of their efforts committed.
i wrote to paul grundy and never got an answer.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/268796/where-need-greater-ttatt-spanish
Whatever became of this discussion? I wish I knew the language to help out.
i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).
i joined the blog a few weeks ago.
i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.
All this has been suggested and tried before. And here we are. There is no silver bullet solution...the situation is very complex.
However, I think the hundreds of websites, blogs, and videos has helped tremendously. Growth has stagnated since the Internet became widely used. People google before getting involved further.
The organization seems to be collapsing under its own weight and experiencing financial disaster. Before people vote with their feet, they vote with their wallet. And the leadership is inept and are there own worst enemy. It is all a matter of time. It might not happen as fast as we would like it. But it is slowly crumbling.
japan had a massive increase in publishers from 1950-1998. then in 1998 something happened and jehovah's blessing switched off!!!.
1998 -222,912 publishers 3,802 congregations.
2006 -217,519 publishers 3,164 congregations.
One day the US will show the same decline...
Actually, it likely would show it, but for the growth in Spanish-speaking congregations.
are the governing body of the wt wickedly smart with extremely high iq or are they leaders of the wt because they were at the right place at the right time.
(in other words, pure luck )-think lottery.
ive seen them talk in jwtv and you can never convince anyone in the whole world that these guys are in the same category as someone smart or cunning like jim simons who founded renaissance technologies or bill gates.
At the very best, people of average intelligence…but their education is lower than average and they are definitely deluded and blind. There seems to have been very few that had the raw engine power of intelligence or a semblance of education. Fred Franz was perhaps was the closet thing.
do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.
the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.
funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.
Deer in headlights. Unlike folks from the Watchtower and elders who testified, her testimony was thoroughly discredited and she knew it.
i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.
that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.
there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.
I think the institution is evil. The individuals caught up in do evil and hurtful things. Of course, the same thing could’ve been said about us at one point, especially those who were elders, sat on judicial commitees, ect…sincerely believing they were doing the right thing. With an elevated position comes the limelight, pride, and so forth…and it creates warped inhuman individuals. But that is what some of us were.
A GB member dies, resigns, is removed…another one takes their place just as indoctrinated if not more. All the individuals of the original GB are gone, but the GB remains with new members. It’s the institution that I don’t feel sympathy for, but I don’t harbor anger for the deluded individuals.
Of course, as in Nazi Germany, undue influence does not absolve a person of crimes. And there have been some on the GB that must have known TTATT. I would lay money that Lyman Swingle was one of them. Of course, they had to make a hard choice: be tossed out on the street in their old age with no skills, or unethically perpetuate a false, evil institution in order to survive. It’s a tough choice…and some of us on this forum are active JWs, going through the motions (meetings, service), but knowing it’s not only a bogus religion, but downright harmful. Sometimes people are faced with a Catch-22.
i only bring this to the board, because a friend of mine once said he felt sorry for the footballers who made so much money.
that comment stayed with me, and over the years,the more i thought about that comment the more i agreed with him.. i admit the g.b destroy people's life's and are the sublimation of all that's good in people's life.
there only excuse is a fantazy asylum they claim to believe in.
If they are “captives of a concept”, it could be with a few week’s deprogramming, they could return to being normal human beings, deeply sorry for what they’ve done.
After all, Ray Franz was a member of the Governing Body once…
yesterday i was with a group of brothers that wanted my advice on re-roofing a home.
three of them were ministerial servants.
all of them are from the spanish congregation.
