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  Baptisms exceeding 300K last year – a possible reason

  by Viva la Vida in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two facts to consider: 1) most baptisms take place during assemblies and conventions; 2) the theocratic year goes from september to august.

  my theory: the borg changed the calendar of conventions and assemblies so to concentrate the baptisms in a single theocratic year.

  if some conventions used to take place in july/august, for the 2018 series they moved them to september.

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  Just wait until the Watchtower starts having infant baptisms at the Kingdom Hall.
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  Why does the Borg never use the terms Grace or Ezer

  by HiddenPimo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let me start with: this is not a discussion of the validity of the bible or whether it is inspired of god.. my question is why do you think they don't use grace in their teachings when this is such paramount teaching in the rest of the christian world.

  and why do they not reference the hebrew word for helper in genesis 'ezer'.

  this word as applied to a woman seems more dignified as it carries the connotation of strength where the man is weak.

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  Cofty summed it up well.

  Grace is a Biblical/New Testament concept. Jesus died to cover the sins of mankind. According to the Watchtower, this is not so.
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  People Were More Ingenious in the Past

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  ok, you'll have to bear with me with this one.. i want to talk about toasters.

  a) a toaster you can buy today, any brand.

  b) a toaster invented in 1948. for a bonus, how long do you think a toaster purchased today will keep working?

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  Why pay $100.00 for a Sunbeam Radiant Control Toaster when you can purchase a plastic toaster made in a Chinese sweatshop that will last 12 months for $15.00 at Wal-Mart? Ooooooh....
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  Believers: How do you know your view of your chosen holy book is the correct one?

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  don't start fighting, darlings.

  i am genuinely curious.

  after all i was a jobo 50 years and thought the wbt$ was 100% correct.. i ask this because i see that, for example, christian denominations (or whatever), likely have differing interpretations of the same writing.

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  Why just one book? I have started reading several religious texts. The Holy Bible. Buddhist texts. Hindu texts. Daoist texts. At some point I'll crack open the Koran and give it a read over.

  I find certain common threads that run through the all. Those are the teachings that lead to true happiness, joy, and peace. Religion is a belief. Spiritualism is having faith. Belief clings to an opinion and denies anything contrary to it. Faith is letting go and accepting the truth of reality.
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  Exiting the JW's and its aftermath

  by Victor in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as human beings we are capable of experiencing around 750 emotions.

  parents use fear, guilt and shame to control their children to behave and do as they wish.

  the jw's are masters at using the same 3 emotions to keep their members in check.

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  The brain is an organ of the body. Like any other organ, its purpose is to keep the body alive. One way it does this is it constantly goes over painful events of the past and it causes anxiety over the future. It does this to force us to analyze these things to prevent future pain. The problem is that we neither live in the past of the future. We only live in the present.

  By living in the present we come to the reality that there is real happiness, joy, and peace to be had right now.
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  King David's Three Choices

  by Jehalapeno in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  editor's note: found this on reddit...thought the meat of the post would be a good post for discussion here as well.. consider the three choices god forced upon david for taking a census.

  these three choices were forced on king david, not for murdering people, not for raping women, not for lying, stealing, or any crime we can think of in our modern world that is repugnant, but simply for taking a census or in other words, counting people.. for counting people, jehovah forced a decision on david that involved the lives of thousands upon thousands of innocent people.. the choices all dealt with the “way” jehovah would kill thousands of unsuspecting loyal worshipers.. 1 chronicles 21.

  “these are the choices the lord has given you.

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  Just throwing something out there under this scenario -

  1. This never happened. There was no "king David". There is no YHWH. Therefor, YHWH never made David play the ultimate game of "Would you rather...?"

  2. This did happen. There is a YHWH. Insert implications including "who are we as mere mortals to tell the Almighty what is good and what is bad?"

  3. Neither 1 or 2.
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  Michael Bloomberg—what’s your opinion of him?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  and do you think he has a chance to win it all?

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  Pete Buttigieg and Michael Bloomberg are the only hope the DNC has to take the White House. If either of those 2 get the official spot on the November ballot I would vote for either. If neither get the nod from the DNC, I will vote third party again.
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  How do you feel about the JWS religion after being out more than 10, 20, 30 years ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  myself being a born in and completely out for more than 30 years i see more of the damage of what this religious cult causes people .. part of myself leaving had to do with the psychological harm it was causing people back in the 1970's, one guy my age at the time hung himself out anxiety and depression.. the numerous suicides that have occurred in numbers is shocking to say the least.. then there is the many families breaking up.. marriages breaking apart because one member decides to leave the jws.. the deaths of members or their children from refusing a blood transfusion.. this hit me personally when my mother refused a bt when she was ill in the hospital and died.. over the years and observing all of these things reminds me how glad and fortunate i left when i did but i do find it responsible to others to expose this religious cult to what can happen to people who get involved with it and that's what i've been doing on this forum and elsewhere.

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  Shortly after the change in the generation doctrine back in the 1990s, there was a local newspaper article about a woman who would protest in our town. She would wear a mask, stand by the side of a busy road, and hold up a sign that read "Watchtower breaks up families." The article relayed how after the doctrine change the woman left the Watchtower and as a result her family shunned her.

  I am not really sure how I felt. In retrospect I can empathize with the woman. I left about 10 years ago. It was about a year before that when I stopped being active, but that was due to my work schedule. When I stopped being active I learned fast who my friends are. Recently I told my father I was never going to come back. I haven't heard from him since.

  I think I do have a responsibility to educate people on the true nature of the Watchtower. I understand the idea of "get on with your life and stop obsessing about this cult." I don't obsess. I have move forward with my life. I'm no Lloyd Evans, but I do try to stay up to date with what is going on and share when I have something to add to the conversation.
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  Do You Support Police and Law Enforcement?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently black lives matter representatives have encouraged people to spit in law enforcement officials foods.

  some people are going into police stations and trying to kill innocent officers.

  federal officials are marked for death because they try to administer the law.. what is your opinion of this type of lawlessness?.

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  LoveUniHateExams:

  I know the London Metropolitan Police Department has an Auxiliaries program. In the US we call them Reserve Police Officers. These are unpaid police volunteers that have police powers. Often they have training equal to their duties.
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  Do You Support Police and Law Enforcement?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently black lives matter representatives have encouraged people to spit in law enforcement officials foods.

  some people are going into police stations and trying to kill innocent officers.

  federal officials are marked for death because they try to administer the law.. what is your opinion of this type of lawlessness?.

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  truth_b_known

  As a 20+ year law enforcement veteran I know I may be biased on this one, but not as much as one might think.

  There are several problems in the United States dealing with law enforcement. One of the main ones is that we have forgotten why we have civilian law enforcement and how civilian law enforcement is supposed to work.

  In a free society, military forces are not to be used to enforce the law. The first civilian police force is the Metropolitan Police Department in London. Sir Robert Edmond Peel created it. Peel came up with the 9 Peelian Principles of Policing. One of which is -

  To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

  In short - there is no "thin blue line". We are all the police. We all have a civic duty to police our communities.

  Instead, we have strayed from this. We say "Not my job. I pay taxes. Its too dangerous. You do it." Then we separate ourselves from the police as if police officers aren't even human. We make it an us against them mentality when in reality we are all on the same boat called "Earth."

  People scream for police reform, but offer no real solutions and certainly excuse themselves from being part of the solution.

  Things that would help -

  Realize that the police don't make laws, they enforce them. Every law made implies that police will use force, possibly even deadly force, to enforce the law. Hold lawmakers accountable for bad laws. We do not want a police department that gets to decide what laws will be enforced and those won't.

  Volunteer your time with your local police department. If your local police department has a ride-a-long program go out on patrol a few times to see what it is like. Get educated so you can be vocal to your local police chief and city elected officials as to what you would like from your police department.

  Be part of the solution.