King David's Three Choices

by Jehalapeno 50 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Jehalapeno
    Jehalapeno

    Editor's Note: Found this on Reddit...thought the meat of the post would be a good post for discussion here as well.

    Consider the three choices God forced upon David for taking a census. These three choices were forced on King David, Not for murdering people, not for raping women, not for lying, stealing, or any crime we can think of in our modern world that is repugnant, but simply for taking a census or in other words, counting people.

    For counting people, Jehovah forced a decision on David that involved the lives of thousands upon thousands of innocent people.

    The choices all dealt with the “Way” Jehovah would kill thousands of unsuspecting loyal worshipers.

    1 Chronicles 21

    “These are the choices the Lord has given you. You may choose three years of famine

    Imagine what that meant. Famine was going to be a three year project for Jehovah or YHWH. God would cause the crops to fail somehow. Either send a swarm of insects to damage the crops, or cause a disease to damage them.

    Then slowly the storehouses would start draining. People would start panicking. After about a year or so, many would start feeling the effects of what Jehovah was doing to them.

    Panic would finally rear its head on the face of the parents as they started seeing the hunger pains on the faces of their innocent children. Eventually when food started becoming really scarce, the children would start getting sick. Slowly but surely the lack of food would invite all kinds of sickness and maladies. The infants being the weakest would be the first to die a painful death as a result of famine. Next would be the elderly, and many would start seeing their parents and grandparents go through a horrifying painful death because of the lack of basic food supplies.

    Finally, the foundation of the family structure in the nation of Israel was in danger of being exterminated as Husbands started losing wives and wives started losing husbands, leaving thousands of widowed people feeling the pains of the famine all by themselves as they slowly starve to death. How horrific!

    The second choice was three months of destruction by the sword. God would send some army to invade the country and start slaughtering children, ripping pregnant women in their homes, killing all the fathers, raping all the young female children, and leaving thousands of children orphans. How wicked is this choice!

    The third choice was three days of some type of severe plague. It was going to be worse than any chemical or viral outbreak in human history. Worse than the Black death.

    Imagine these three choices forced on you. Imagine you having to choose which killing method would be imposed on thousands upon thousands of unsuspecting children, mothers, fathers, infants. All these people trying their best to do the right thing in raising a God-fearing family, and yet had no idea that the God they worshiped was about to murder them horrifically.

    You probably would have calculated the same way David did. Three days is better than three years of famine or three months of the sword. So David picks three days of a plague.

    David felt that it was better to fall into the hands of a merciful God. Did David not get it? This was not the character of a “Merciful God”

    In three days God slaughters 70,000 people. Around 972 people were dying every hour for the next 72 hours. Imagine if that happened in the area you live. That means that there wasn’t even enough time to figure out what the hell is going on. There wasn’t enough time to bury the dead or even mourn them. 972 people were dying every hour for 72 hours until the total came to 70,000 dead in just three days.

    And remember, these were Jehovah’s loyal, faithful worshipers.

    King David tried to reason with Jehovah by explaining the situation in such simple terms that a five-year-old child would understand.

    Bible quote;

    And David said to Jehovah, “I am the one who called for the census! I am the one who has sinned and done wrong! But these people are as innocent as sheep—what have they done?

    It did not matter to Jehovah aka YHWH. He forced David to choose the method of killing all these unsuspecting people whose only crime was being part of the Theocratic Nation of Israel.

    This is wicked. This is worse than Demonic. This is the an example of a true Psychopath.

    Forget 607, forget overlapping generation.

    The real question is; why would anyone want to worship this kind of God?

  • EverApostate
    EverApostate

    Exactly. This is what I ask any CHristian. Why does the Biblical god punish the people for what the King did. (Even the Egyptian Plagues and the killing of the firstborns)

    Clearly these are indications that they were written by Psychopaths.

  • fulltimestudent
    fulltimestudent

    Thnx for posting it. Its a good argument, and exposes the stupidity of christian ratbags., in which group I include our former LOVELESS brothers.

  • Victor
    Victor

    Jehalapeno remember the context. You had to create a book filled with fear to keep the minions from straying or thinking for themselves. All primitive religions had this in common, scare the s....t out of anyone not obeying what the leaders said was truth. No different than Alice in Wonderland lol.

    VE

  • truth_b_known
    truth_b_known

    Just throwing something out there under this scenario -

    1. This never happened. There was no "king David". There is no YHWH. Therefor, YHWH never made David play the ultimate game of "Would you rather...?"

    2. This did happen. There is a YHWH. Insert implications including "who are we as mere mortals to tell the Almighty what is good and what is bad?"

    3. Neither 1 or 2.

  • RubaDub
    RubaDub

    Imagine a different scenario when King David saw the beautiful Bathsheba naked.

    If he had just watched her and "taken the matter into his own hands", the biblical records would be far different.

    Rub a Dub

  • nowwhat?
    nowwhat?

    That and when Moses told the Israelite men to execute the women and children captives but you can keep the young hot virgins for yourselves are my 2 favorite bible stories!

  • Earnest
    Earnest

    It is nothing at all like Alice in Wonderland. In Alice through the Looking-Glass you have the Red Queen shouting "Off with their heads" but it never happens, even in the dream.

  • JoenB75
    JoenB75
    Theologically it might be that we are dealing with a case of an Yahweh name bearing angel with his shortcomings. Whether this case or Job's family or pharaoh's son we are also dealing with the ancient federal headship principle. The same principle can be seen in the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. The action of Adam condemns us, the action of Jesus saves us. The action of the head blesses or curses. The believer just like Job clings on to the Almighty believing only he can redeem. Job was no dualist, "woman, we have to accept the good and the bad from God". The atheist looks at evil in the world and rules out the redeeming God exists. A Platonist sort of most high does not do well with current reality. He asks is this god worth worshipping and says no. This reasoning does however not remove the redeemer from the humble believer ☺️
  • subtlevirtue
    subtlevirtue

    it seems that worshipping the God of the bible {baptism, amen, communion} involves things similar to oaths and is more then a yes or no. Therefore it is under the jurisdiction of ?Azazel? (who supposedly invented worship or god status which would mean it is inherently under his jurisdiction); this is why I do not confer god status or worship YHWH. If one considers what YHWH has done (global destruction through flood, annihilation of the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, killing all the first born of Egypt, and genocide of almost all the tribes of Canaan) does he not seems morally repugnant. LOVE??? I suppose that would have been an upgrade but all Christians were like their master put under special possession of angels and if that failed were killed or handed to demons

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