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  New Ezekiel book topic. Bat shot crazy stuff

  by nowwhat? in

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  "nevermind islamic terrorists.

  we need to focus on an obscure religious group that no one pays any attention to!

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  truth_b_known

  When I was a Witness there was a paradoxical situation involving the WBTS rendetion of the "last days" and the "Great Tribulation."

  As the WBTS story goes; first the "Wild Beast" of Revelation would turn on the "Harlot." This would begin the Great Tribulation. The WBTS writes that this means the governments of the world would "turn" on false religion.

  Later, those same governments would turn on Jehovah's people and thus bring Armageddon.

  It was often alluded to the governments of the world would "turn" on false religion buy seizing it's wealth and assets. This is where things got interesting to me. I believed if the governments decided to seize religion's wealth the WBTS would not be exempt. After all, the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society were split into separate identities in the 1990s. We were told not to refer to "The Society" as a source of authority. So, I believed that it was only reasonable that all the Kingdom Halls, Assembly Halls, Bethel Homes, other WBTS properties, and all bank accounts would be seized. The WBTS would cease to exist, but the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses would continue on.

  Here is where things got somewhat paradoxical. I knew most Witnesses would not believe the Great Tribulation had begun or anything else unless it was put in print by the Watchtower. I knew most Witnesses worshiped the organization and not Jehovah. Even 20 years ago I knew that Witnesses believed that unless it came from HQ in Brooklyn, NY it wasn't "The Truth." That got me to thinking, which is frowned upon by the organization.
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  What happened to the "New World Order"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  so as a child and youth growing up as a witness, (i'm 43 now) we often heard the expression "new world order".. the society just doesnt use that expression anymore.

  so what was the reasoning behind them amending that expression?.

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  truth_b_known

  I recall the term "New System." In the 90s it seemed there was an attempt to add "New Order," but it never really caught on. "New World Order" is a term used in conjunction with a globalist agenda to have a one-world government.
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  Concealed carry Dubs

  by scruffmcbuff in

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  i spent a considerable length of time living and working in america (would love to imigrate one day).. almost everyone i worked with and made friends with carried a concealed firearm of somesort.

  i found this pretty interesting and as an avid firearm fan even more so.. so to our american members here... .

  as a jw did you or did you know any practising dubs who carried or if not had firearms for home defence?

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  truth_b_known

  I was in from birth to my early 30s. I lived in 4 states during that time. I knew Witnesses in all of those places that owned rifles and shotguns. They justified it to the congregation as hunting tools.

  I owned a few pistols. I took them to the range.

  Carrying any weapon for the purpose of self defense was frowned upon and would result in a loss of any privileges.

  This is all due to a mistranslated scripture.
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  New releases at annual meeting??

  by _Morpheus in

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  this has been mentioned in passing but it seems to deserve its own thread.. this year at the rc, no releases.

  instead they wait to drop them at the annual meeting which isnt a even simulcast event.

  what is their thinking?

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  truth_b_known

  My thoughts are similar to Sparrowdown's. I believe the WBTS wants increased control over who initially obtains a hard copy of the new release. Correct me if I am wrong , because they didn't start this until after I was out, but isnt't the Annual Meeting a "by invitation only" event. Not all Witnesses are invited and non-Witnesses are definitely not invited.
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  Ex jw memorial

  by lancelink in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  recently a young person who was df'd died.

  as you can imagine, there will be no talk at the hall.. well, enter some very courageous other young ex jw's who had their own memorial.. these people got together , and had a bonfire in memory of our friend.

  and since we have hardly seen each other in over ten years, the conversation and tears flowed all night.. it just amazes me how all the parents of these grown up, normal young people think that ignoring their children is something that god approves of.

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  truth_b_known

  I am certain it was a far, far greater memorial than anything that could be offered by a Witness elder at a Kingdom Hall.
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  When All Else FAILS Protest and Cry When You Don’t Get Your Way

  by minimus in

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  do these democrats really think that if they protest and wail about anything they don’t like , that policies will change ?

  they are really embarrassing themselves..

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  Protests are meaningless in the United States now. One of the chief reasons is, in recent times, there seems to be a protest every 2 seconds for everything under the sun. It's not like the 1960's with the civil rights movement or the anti-war movement in protest of America's involvement in Vietnam.

  One of the main differences is that the protesters in those movements seemed to be educated on the issues and had a real plan of action. I find it depressing to see independent journalists interviewing current protesters only to expose the fact that current protesters have no idea of why they are protesting or what their end goal is.
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  If You Doubt .. The Answer Is Always More More More

  by Not_Culty in

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  https://i.redd.it/afdvt5fxt8q11.gif.

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  truth_b_known

  My wife was not in the organization long. Maybe 2 years before we met. One of the reasons she got out (I'd say she did before I did) was, no matter what she did or how hard she tried, the organization always asked "Can you do more?" To her this was the organization constantly saying "You're best isn't good enough."
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  No Watchtower shipment

  by LevelThePlayingField in

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  it was announced at our clam that there "was no shipment of the october study editions of the watchtower" and that they were asking if people could just use electronic or make their own copies.. is this just happening in ohio, or did you hear the same thing?.

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  truth_b_known

  I was in for over 30 years. I was the magazine servant for several of those towards the end of my time. This never happened the whole time I was in. 4 states and multiple congregations.
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  JW's Would Stay With The Org Even If 1914 Was Dropped

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
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  i asked the question on quora: .

  if the governing body abandoned the 1914 teaching, would you leave jehovah's witnesses or you would remain a member regardless?.

  https://www.quora.com/if-the-governing-body-abandoned-the-1914-teaching-would-you-leave-jehovahs-witnesses-or-you-would-remain-a-member-regardless.

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  truth_b_known

  Isn't ironic?

  The question posed to believers asking if they would remain faithful to their religion if their religious leaders changed a core belief with the following general response -

  "I love being part of a religion that admits when it's wrong and changes it's beliefs, which it has done many times."

  How can anyone refer to their religion as "The Truth" when literally every belief may be wrong and could change at anytime?

  Perhaps Witnesses should replace the term "The Truth" to "Blind Obedience."
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  Just a thought

  by moley in

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  just a hypothetical question.

  if the society was right and armageddon came a knocking would you want to live in a society run by the org and bully elders.. would rather die at armageddon.

  i would.

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  truth_b_known

  8 years ago, when I first came to this site, there was a post that contained a well written story of what a former Witness thought life would be like in the "New System". First, I think the conjecture was horrifyingly accurate. Second, that conjecture was so depressing that I can honestly say life as a Witness in the New System would be a life of suffering that goes far beyond life currently.