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  Three congregations dissolved and a kingdom hall sold within a 50 mile radius in my area...

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

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  has anyone else heard of these situations with congregations and halls in your area?

  i thought the ground breaking mandatory pledge a little while ago was to keep up with "immense" growth?

  how soon they forget... looks really bleak for the future of the wbats, the jw gravy train seems to be coming to a slow and agonizing yet inevitable stop.

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  If you don't mind me asking - what area is this?
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  My awkward elders hearing

  by Andamormonjustbelieves in

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  i was baptized when i was 14 years old.

  i hadn't had any real relationship with a girl up to that point.

  but when i started going to high school i learnt the joys of experimenting with girls, so i did not stay a faithful member of the congregation for long.

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  I've always found the practice of elders in a judicial committee involving fornication asking for detailed descriptions. Fornication is fornication. The more important questions would be -

  How many times before you confessed?

  Did you come to use or did someone else report you?

  My story is similar to many - My JC was for fornication involving my wife and I. The incident happened just before we were married (engaged and wedding date was set). We went to the elders about 2 months after we were married.

  I was completely floored! We were treated totally different than I expected. We were told by these 3 elders that they believed we were truly repentant, but they then said we had to be punished. Punished?!? First time offense that technically CANNOT be repeated! We lost all privileges. 2 weeks later, one of the elders on our JC who happened to also be our Book Study overseer asks me to read at the Book Study. WTF?!?

  This truly opened my eyes. I knew then that the who process was BS.
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  The true cost of being raised as a witness

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
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  how do you view your upbringing as a witness?.

  most of us who were raised as witnesses would appreciate that some aspects of our upbringing were ok. a foundation and measure of stability came with it.. but, it struck me too, that we also lost so very much!

  and we lost a lot of potential.. by this i mean, we need to look at not just what we lost, or what was deprived of us, but what that ended up costing us as adults into the future.. if i take $10 from you, you have lost just $10.. but, if you were going to use that $10 to buy something that would end up earning you $1000, then i actually took $1000 from you!.

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  A strong moral code and the ability to study/read was the only positive takeaways for me. When I was in the sixth grade I tested at a high school senior reading level. I was fortunate that my college years were in the 90's when some higher education was approved of. I did go my own way. I ended up graduating with 2 degrees rather than just taking some college computer courses.
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  In Your Opinion Do Today's Elders Recognize That The Religion Is BS?

  by minimus in

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  i always wondered that while i was in especially when i was an elder.

  i recognize that some people,elders included are brain-dead.

  but do you think that the average older today knows it's all nonsense?

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  I grew up with a brother who went to Bethel, came back, and was appointed as an elder at a very young age. At a Circuit Assembly he gave a talk that had the usual "Armageddon is right around the corner" message. He walked off the stage and immediately said to my friend, "Armageddon is decades away."
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  New "Become Jehovah's Friend" Video - The Ransom

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  : https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/#mediaitems/allvideos/pub-pk_e_26_video.

  sickening propaganda for our young ones.

  they've laid off on the "armageddon will be here soon" angle and now it's all about "hope".

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  You can't have it both ways.

  Either we admonish our youth to forgo an education and a career in a high paying job to concentrate on the ministry because Armageddon is almost here or...

  You better get an education an a high paying job with a great 401K plan because we hope the end is soon, but it may not be in your lifetime.
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  Craziest thing you ever did during intermission at a Circuit Assembly

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. jw
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  1970 - there was a local drag strip a few miles away from the hall rented for the circuit assembly.

  i was 18 , tim o. was 16 and wayne d. was 18. wayne had a 1955 chevy 4 door, 6 cylinder and fresh paint job.

  tim had his dad'ss 1965 chevy half ton.

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  I just recall a CA that, on Sunday, was an NFL playoff game that the local team was in. I was on parking lot patrol. I laughed at how many brothers snuck off to their cars during the afternoon session to listen to the game on their radio. Keep in mind that this was pre-smart phone days.
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  Sparlock is making his rounds again

  by stillin in

  1. jw
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  i was at the meeting last night and the dreadful video about caleb and sparlock was forced upon the audience.

  honestly, i had forgotten how bad it was.

  the mother's manipulative over-reaction and caleb's acceptance that his toy was evil.

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  I remember how Harry Potter was the Sparlock of my time. Yet everyone in the congregation was lining up to see all the Lord of the Rings movies. My wife could not understand that. This is so typical of the religion.
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  Refuting Watchtarded Reasoning - 1. "If a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol, you wouldn't inject it..."

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm hoping to start a series of posts refuting common, fallacious jw reasoning that they repeat to support their teachings or defend their organization.

  in this first installment i will be tackling the common fallacious analogy used by them to equate eating blood with receiving a transfusion.

  feel free to share your own refutations on each thread.. "if a doctor tells you to abstain from alcohol you wouldn't go injecting it into your veins, would you?".

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  I also thought that when Paul penned the words "Keep abstaining from blood" the word "blood" was the same word as "murder". In other words - Refrain from murder (being blood guilty).
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  "would you drink a glass of water if it had just a tiny bit of poison in it?"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no doubt we have all heard that well used "illustration" in public talks etc over the years:.

  "if you were handed a glass of water that looked pure, but were told it has just a tiny drop of poison in it, would you drink it?".

  the society has used that illustration at length to say we should avoid all influences of every part of the world.. but, as we know, the society has had a track record of errors, false ideas and doctrines.

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  If that were truly the case Jehovah's Witnesses would not be using the pagan practice of wearing wedding bands, bridesmaids in weddings, and the bride wearing a white dress.

  That's just one example of a "tiny drop of poison" that Witnesses have no problem digesting.
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  84 Lumber Commercial

  by azor in

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  just saw this commercial and was very impressed.

  hoping more companies start doing the same.

  most of us are immigrants.

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  truth_b_known

  Those aren't immigrants. They are illegal aliens. My grandparents are the children of immigrants of Germans and Russians who came to the United States through Ellis Island, learned to speak English, and fought for our nation against their former homeland.