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  Demons. Afraid or not?

  by punkofnice in

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  2. beliefs

  when i was a jobot i had the fear of demons rammed down my throat.. now i am without any faith, i don't have that fear because it seems irrational.

  a fairy tale from the minds of some weirdo.. now i don't have to worry about buying stuff 2nd hand.. it always amused me how some jobots would pooh pooh charity (goodwill to my american cousins), shops or 2nd hand shops in case demons inhabited a jumper or a chest of drawers.

  yet at the same time they'd buy a 2nd hand car.

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  Christians: The greatest trick the Devil has ever pulled off is getting people to believe he does not exist.

  Also Christians: It's demons!
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  Consumption of Blood

  by MikeJH in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i am new to this and recently converted, so please forgive my ignorance.. i am trying not to sin and don't understand something.

  it says in leviticus that you cannot consume blood, so no blood transfusions.

  i understand this.

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  All milk has blood cells in it. Witnesses never seem to flinch over that. The Watchtower even encourages breastfeeding. The length of time a piece of animal flesh is exposed to heat has no bearing on the amount of blood it has in it at the time of consumption.
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  Watchtower Study on 5th December.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.

  in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".

  however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.

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  Notice in the Shepherding the Flock book in paragraph 11 the Watchtower directs the elders handling the person's reinstatement to return privileges at a rate of time that would not be offensive to the congregation. Talk about flying an airplane as you build it! The congregation's opinion was never asked if they thought the person was repentant or not. The congregation's opinion was never asked when it came to how long to disfellowship a person.

  How do these 3 elders determine what would be offensive to the congregation? Is it the whole congregation or a simple majority? Is a vote taken?

  "Hey, would anyone be offended if we let Brother Smith have his privilege to answer at the meetings back?"
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  Unitarian Universalist: Anyone Familiar?

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope you are all doing well.. has anyone had an encounter with a unitarian universalist?

  my wife has a friend who invited us to their church a few years ago.

  we never went lol.

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  It's mostly a feel good meeting place for agnostics who still like the the comfort and ritual of meeting together at "church."

  Great teacher hit the nail on the head. There is one of the churches near me. I discovered it because I was looking for a place that gave instruction in Buddhist meditation. Once a week the local Unitarian Church hosts a mediation class lead by a Vajrayana Buddhist monk.

  I also saw there is an atheist church that started up. There is at least one congregation that meets in my state. This is just a group of likeminded people who meet on Sundays. There is usually one scheduled speaker who gives a discourse on a topic dealing with science or history.
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  Watchtower Study on 5th December.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt study for this week is all about disfellowshipping.

  in an early paragraph it said "think how heartbroken jehovah must have been when members of his own angelic family turned their back on him!".

  however when you think about it, when this happened according to the wt teaching, jehovah still engaged with satan in the heavens (book of job) and had conversations with him about what was going on in the earth.. so why do the wt org practice shunning when jehovah god obviously didn't?.

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  All human thought is based on one of two things -

  Love

  Fear

  Why did the Watchtower invent the disfellowshipping arrangement? Because they are afraid others in the congregation will follow the alleged wrongdoer. They are afraid the alleged good name of their organization will be damaged. They are afraid Jehovah will allegedly remove his blessings on the congregation.

  So how is this a loving arrangement?

  Side note: When Jesus came across a demon possessed man he did not shun the demons. Jesus asked the demons "What is your name?" The demons replied, "We are Legion for we are many." Prior to casting the demons out the was a verbal exchange, a conversation, between Legion and Jesus. Legion pleaded with Jesus that they be allowed to entire a herd of pigs nearby. Jesus agreed.

  So, knowing Legion "turned their back on Jehovah" Jesus still asked their name and conversed with them. Jesus even agreed to Legion's request.
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  I`m astounded by this number ,what`s your thoughts ? definite benefits for sure ,but what of the future ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. social
  2. current

  by 2020, 114 launches carried around 1,300 satellites to space, surpassing the 1,000 new satellites per year mark for the first time.

  but no year in the past compares to 2021. as of sept. 16, roughly 1,400 new satellites have already begun circling the earth, and that will only increase as the year goes on.

  just this month, spacex deployed another 51 starlink satellites into orbit.. right now, there are nearly 6,000 satellites circling our tiny planet.

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  A new business opportunity.

  
  
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  I have come to the conclusion that a lot of JWs don't care if the end is near.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was in the cult for years about 40. fourth gen born in cult member or for me ex cult member.

  i have seen so many cult members who don't seem to really care if the end is near or not.

  they are much more concerned with the idea that this is their social network and they need and or want it just the way it is.

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  I believe it. In 2005 I attended a One Day Assembly in which a young Elder who was formerly a Bethelite gave a talk. After walking off the stage he told his best friend the end was not coming any time soon.

  Those generational Witnesses who have high paying jobs and martini parties are just going through the motions. I think deep down inside they don't want the end to come. They no life in the "New World" would be rough.
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  Did you at one time Believe-that you were not going to die. Does your still in JW spouse still believe?

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this magazine says it all!.

  and many of the older jws believed at one point in their life that they would make it through the great tribulation and into the 1000 year reign of christ without dying.

  which is why so many jws stayed in so long.. is the main reason why jws ignore all the child abuse, the end of door to door service, and the closing of kingdom hall for almost two years----because they still believe they will not die?.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses is a religion based on Judeo-Christian beliefs. Such beliefs, which are the basis of Western culture, are egocentric. This belief propagates the idea that a person is separate from everyone and everything else. This belief in turn generates the Ego which creates anxiety over death as the Ego the belief "I MUST live!"

  In addition, Jehovah's Witnesses are asked to "sacrifice" their life, that is to say "Don't do as you wish to do. Do as you are told to do." What are they told? Put all your time and energy into the religion. They are told there will be eternity to enjoy life after Armageddon.

  For older Witnesses I believe the Sunk Cost Fallacy comes into play.
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  Tesla Cyberwhistle - Are People Really This Dumb?

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  what if i told you that we needed a whistle?

  probably the dollar store.

  or walmart.

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  Found on the same aisle as pet rocks and canned moonlight.
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  CLASSICAL music: value ZERO ?? (The Truth That Leads to Eternal LIfe)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  classical music: value zero??.

  performances are ephemeral.

  you hear a live performance - and it's gone.. a recording may preserve that 'in a certain way' but it can't preserve it against other performances of the same thing.

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  Zero is a powerful number. One of my teachers recently shared with me that the Roman Empire outlawed the number zero and the concept of zero (nothing or emptiness).

  Are their too many E-JW Youtubers and podcasts? Well, in a way. It seems they all do the same thing - expose the teachings of the Watchtower to be false. So stick with that and others are anti-theist.

  I was recently pondering how to be more effective in the message that Ex-JWs publish. I am trying to put my concept into words, but the best I can come up with is -

  • Stop bashing.
  • Acknowledge that Jehovah' Witnesses religion, like all religions, can have some value.
  • Back off the doctrine that is nothing more than belief.
  • Address the organization policies that are the true issue at hand (disfellowshipping/no disagreeing with the Governing Body/child abuse policies and/or 2 witness rule, etc.).

  It doesn't matter if there is a Jehovah or not. It doesn't matter how the universe came into being. What does matter is how people treat each other.

  The best thing the Watchtower could to is change for the better, like any other Christian faith, is to stop focusing on the details and start focusing on the only proof humans can offer that following Christ is the truth - showing love and displaying the fruitage of the spirit. Everything else is not of importance unless you can do those 2 things.

  Disfellowshipping is not a loving arrangement no matter how many times it is put in print by the Watchtower. No matter how many hours one puts into the public ministry or how many books or magazines you place, unless you are showing love, peace, joy, kindness, long-suffering, goodness, faith, mildness, self control you are no a follower of Christ. Individual action by humans could never make something God made "unclean". All that is required is to show love.

  A lot of the Ex-JW Youtubers are a lot like the race pimps and race grifters of today. They share a lot of zingers and then stick their hand out for money. Buy my book. Click on the like button and subscribe below.