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  What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think they feel bad for us!

  envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?

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  Nitty Gritty:

  You do have a point. As one psychologist says, "Pick your damn sacrifice." Freedom sometimes requires change and change always requires sacrifice. Some people prefer to the security of familiarity over freedom.

  The problem comes in when the choice is not a choice. I was born to Witness parents. They did as the Watchtower tells them - raise your children to be Witnesses. So, at the age of 14 I was baptized. Not because I wanted to be baptized, but because I was steamrolled into it by my parents.

  We see all too often children who stand firm in their desire not to be a Witness thrown out on the streets by the Witness parents. They do this out of fear of their status within the organization. This is a fact and it cannot be denied.

  So, yes, I made a sacrifice. I sacrificed my relationship with my parents and siblings by following facts, documented historical evidence, archeologic evidence, geological evidence, logic and reason. I separated myself from my family by deciding not to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses. I knew my family would choose their obedience to the Governing Body over their familial ties to me.

  The difference is that I accept them, even while they practice their faith while they reject me because of their obedience to a man-made organization that condemns former believers and openly pines for our death (see Anthony Morris III recent video). I respect anyone's beliefs and would never do anything to actively try to get them to change. Faith is a very personal thing. So, unless my family earnestly asked me to share with them why I no longer share their beliefs I will keep that to myself.
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  Anthony Morris depicts ex-members as ''Despicable Apostates''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is one of the many commandments jesus instructed his twelve apostles to keep, follow, and obey!.

  here is anthony morris ( supposedly selected by jehovah to keep, follow and obey the sayings of jesus ) name-calling and condemning enemies!

  the pharisees used to label people as well.

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  Rules & Regulations has it spot on. Jesus said that even the people of the nations love their brothers, but Christians are to love their enemies. Tony Morris should have said, "Love those who were once with us and pray they return before it is too late."

  Also, if a person dedicates themselves to God, but choses not to practice the Witness religion, how does that make one an enemy of God? Unless of course you spell God W-A-T-C-H-T-O-W-E-R.
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  What Do JWs Think Of Those Like Us That Have Left?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you think they feel bad for us!

  envy us or basically don’t give a 💩?

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  truth_b_known

  What do active Witnesses think of those who left? They don't. That is for one of two reasons -

  1. That would require thinking of someone other than themselves. I always found Witnesses to be rather selfish people.

  2. They don't because that would require thinking and thinking is discouraged by the Governing Body. The Governing Body will do all the thinking.
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  Idolatry and usage of JW.ORG logo

  by KSFernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can anyone give difference between cross and pendant with jw.org logo?.

  further this logo has become the main identification of a kingdom hall.. can someone give bible reasoning behind this?

  against or favour..

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  Is the use of the JW.Org logo on items no different than wearing a crucifix? No.

  Are Jehovah's Witnesses Olympic level, god medal winning mental gymnastic champions who can reason anything to their favor? Yes.
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  Possible other names for Jehovah's Witnesses

  by Clarkey in

  1. social
  2. humour

  world wide association of liars.

  organization of delusional sociopaths.

  jehovah's publishing corporation .

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  Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Incorporated

  That's my favorite name for them. They are and always have been a business. Their own name. They need to own it.

  I would refuse to call them Jehovah's Witnesses. They are Publishers of the Watchtower Corporation.
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  The Worst doctrine of JWs- Ressurection and Paradise

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  besides the facts that one needs to take numerous verses from the ot and nt and smash them together to make this theology (which works out to a modern day zorastriaism) the whole concept is realy horrific.. first it teachs that your life is worthless and should be exploited until the next one in paradise/or heaven.

  second it teachs that you dead loved ones are still around either in heaven or jeblooper's memory.

  so don't greive.

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  The implied reality of the paradise Earth myth would shake a sane person to the core. Armageddon happens. Billions of humans are all dead all at once. All of human society's infrastructure ends instantaneously.

  Imagine AMC's The Walking Dead television series minus the zombies. No electricity. No heating or air conditioning. No clean, running water. Millions of "survivors" who have no clue on how to grow food, cook food, make clothes, tend non-fatal wounds or injuries, etc.

  I guess beards will be back in style because no one knows how to smith razors. As will long hair, unshaven legs and hairy armpits. A decade into "Paradise" and everyone will look like a castaway survivor on a desert island. I am not sure what would be worse - the smell of all the dead, rotting bodies or the body odor and stale breath of all the survivors burying them.

  After a hard 16 hour day's work of burying dead people and disposing of any sign of the prior world, there's nothing like a bowl of hot, bland boiled carrots and potatoes. Maybe you can watch the crows pick the bones of your dead neighbors for the night's entertainment. I'm pretty sure the football match won't be televised.

  Then a thousand years pass. The Earth has been restored to the way it was intended. Only the faithful are left on Earth. Now what?

  "Well, we don't know, but I am sure it will be wonderful!" claims the Watchtower.

  Sorry, but I'm not buying it. Forever is a long time.

  Like HowTheBibleWasCreated, I too have turned to eastern philosophy. It actually makes sense and jives with science.
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  Sin came into the world - not true?

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  matt 5:27 “you have heard that it was said, ‘do not commit adultery.’ 28 but i say to you that whoever looks at a woman to desire her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.. this means that even before someone commits an act that is considered a sin or wrong but does think about it, that person actually already committed that sin or trespassing.. now read this:.

  rom.

  5:12 so then, just as sin entered the world through one man and death through sin, and so death spread to all people because all sinned— 13 for before the law was given, sin was in the world, but there is no accounting for sin when there is no law.. this means that there was already sin in the world before adam and eve actually ate the fruit.

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  Both the Hebrew and Greek words for "sin" are archery terms that mean "to miss the mark." In Hebrew it literally meant "to miss the golden center of the target." Cravings and desires cause one to take their eye off the target, as it were, and miss.

  Yes, the creation account, Adam, Eve, and the original sin are allegoric stories used to explain things by the Israelites. Being concerned with whether or not it happened is missing the point. That is like seeing some one use their finger to point to a beautiful full moon on a dark night and focus on the person's finger.
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  Things that YHWH Never Told Me. Did You Know that YHWH Came from Egypt? Hmmmm!!

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i belong to a group (best description that i can think of) that specialises in sharing academic papers.

  ok, sometimes that provides me with all kinds of interesting material pertinent to my research interests.

  but, sometimes, (and since i have not read all of it, i'm assuming its fair dinkum, genuine research) something turns up (not among my usual research interests) that blows my simple brain.. anyway, after a brief examination, my conclusion is this: i think charlie russell would have gone gaga over this research.. the author has named his paper, .

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  The evidence becomes overwhelming on the origins of the Hebrew religion. Its an amalgamation of Canaanite Ba'al worship mixed with teachings from whichever empire was currently occupying the land (Egypt/Persia).
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  California to ban sales of fossil fuel cars in 15 years

  by mickbobcat in

  1. social
  2. current

  this will never work but liberals are too stupid to know it.

  first off all you have to do is cross the border and buy a car.

  if they will not let you license it in the state then many will license it out of state.

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  I believe in climate change and I support non-fossil fuel energy sources that actually work. This is actually an insane idea for California. California imports more electricity than any other state in the union. There are people unable to flee the wildfires because of the rolling blackouts and because the own only an electric vehicle.

  Add to this that there are not enough child laborers and cobalt mines in Africa to manufacture the batteries for all the electric cars that would be needed to replace the fossil fuel vehicles in California.

  
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  Were JWs Right That There Would Be A Time When Governments Would Go After All Religion?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they have predicted this for years.

  religions of the world would become attacked by the governments.

  the only difference is when they go after jehovah’s witnesses, then jehovah god will step in and destroy the governments..

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  I always remember the Watchtower teaching that all governments would turn on all religions. Witnesses theorized it would be a seizure of all property and wealth. My personal thoughts when I was a Witness was that it would include all Watchtower assets, as technically the Watchtower teaches Witnesses are separate from the corporation. It was only after this the governments would see Witnesses still chugging along that they would finally turn on the Witnesses.

  There are so many religions, many that have no financial assets, that I don't see how this would be possible. I cannot see every religion, but Jehovah's Witnesses, being eradicated. This could only happen if 8 billion people minus the Witnesses decided to give up religion entirely.