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  Providing salvation is not that important

  by pixel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

  i find this so antichristian.

  i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

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  “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?” - C.S. Lewis (Theist/Former Atheist)

  “There is no answer to the question, ‘Why not be cruel?’” - Richard Rorty (Atheist)

  What is "evil," "pain," and "suffering" but subjective personal experiences if the universe "just is"? How can you condemn a god for things that don't exist? How can you deny the existence of once thing based on something that is a subjective feeling or personal experience?
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  "MUST" Release such Guilty Members to Punishment!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  "must" release such guilty members to punishment .

  watchtower 1962, november 15th, pg.-693, par.-9-10.

  “9 worldly authorities render a judgment and punish persons, whether they are inside the congregation or outside, if they violate the laws of decency and good order.

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  Watchtower worshippers will walk those statements back by stating that they agree they are not to protect or hinder the earthly authorities from holding lawbreakers accountable, but are not under scriptural obligation to report lawbreakers to the earthly authorities. Then it comes down to Watchtower's favorite game of semantics as to what "hinder" means. Failure to report is hindering in my book. However Watchtower would disagree.
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  Do You Believe In Polls?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when you hear that the polls say.... do you really believe it??.

  i think polls can be and often are skewered.

  i don’t trust them..

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  Polls have two major flaws -

  1. They are only as accurate as the poll participants are honest (e.g. 2016 Presidential Candidate Poll).

  2. The person who writes the polls designs them in such a way to bolster and argument.

  Here is a classic example of #2 int he form of the age old "gun control" debate -

  "Do you A) Think we need stricter gun control laws or B) Think our current laws suffice?" Notice that there isn't a "C) Think our current gun control laws are too restrictive."

  That's why I cringe when I hear people citing polls as evidence to prove an argument.
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  Have you ever? (Suffered a Great Disappointment?)

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you ever suffered a great disappointment?.

  well, meet william miller!______.

  time: 1782 (after the american revolution and before the war of 1812).

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  William Miller and his Millerite movement is the true origin of the Russell's Watchtower and the modern day Jehovah's Witness religion.

  The end of season 2 of the HBO tv show "The Leftovers" featured Miller and the great disappointment. It was powerful watching those Millerites getting up on their rooftops waiting for the end to come.
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  Not invited to congregation “get togethers”. They finally said it

  by solomon in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we don’t get many invitations to congregational social gatherings.

  we don’t attend midweek meetings and miss about 1/3 of sunday meetings.

  we go in service at least once a month.

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  My family was the victim of the same. I worked shift work. Then one day I swapped shifts so I could make it to the one day assembly. After the session we received no dinner invite. Elders wanted to stop by for a shepherding call, but only offered Sunday after the meeting. I worked Sunday after the meeting. I invited them any evening during the week. They declined.
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  My wife and I have begun our fade

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i haven’t posted in awhile.

  my wife asked me after the year 2000 came and went without fanfare(because the wt organization said all the “new world” would be here within this 20th century would end), “ what would it take for you to leave the truth?”.

  my reply was “ if i turn 60 in this “system of things”.

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  Remember, as long as you draw breath it is always possible to make a change. Enjoy your new found freedom.
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  Another stay in talk

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we got a local talk.

  keep away from outside influences, and marginal witnesses(me?).

  keep up prayer, study, all that.

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  Rub-a-Dub:

  That movie is nuts. N-V-T-S. Nuts!
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  Flood over everest

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  meeting part comment on how the flood covered everest.

  that is even more ignorant than mountains being pushed up and eroding in a few thousand years.

  and it wasnt cold either.. i should have commented on the bristlecone in the awake that survived the flood.

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  I remember that if the mass of a planet changes, so does its orbit. With the amount of water required to cover the Earth, it would change the plane't mass and thereby Earth's orbit. This would make
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  Wt. April 2020 Revised Joel Prophecy

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  if this has been posted before, then my apologies..... article in april ‘20 wt changes the view of the locust swarm prophecy...formerly believed to describe the worldwide preaching by anointed.

  ”simply put, these verses refer, not to our zealous preaching work, but to the activity of the babylonian army that invaded jerusalem in 607 b.c.e.”.

  they also tie in the giving of holy spirit to the congregation at pentecost and thereafter.. the article is available to read in full on our least favourite website.. https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2020/an-attack-coming-from-the-north/.

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  100% man made doctrine.
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  Another stay in talk

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we got a local talk.

  keep away from outside influences, and marginal witnesses(me?).

  keep up prayer, study, all that.

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  I imagine Moses walking onto the stage and throwing the tablets containing the Ten Commandments down and then walking away. Jesus dined with prostitutes and tax collectors. Apparently Witnesses need to steer clear of "marginal" Witnesses. Talk about Orwellian. Watchtower has everyone suspecting everyone else as a double agent out to assassinate them.