Posts by zeb

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Is the Governing Body under estimating the volume of those waking up?

by I believe in overlapping in

with all the scandals of the organization, it would .

be sound and logical from a human or strategic viewpoint,.

that they loosen the reins of control and be more honest with its members.

zeb

Australian and other world governments please note.

The GB have said that jw may be asked to do things distant from a human understanding and could suggest.. (!) every one sign over their own homes or 'super funds to the WT (Jehovah will look after you) and many will do so. The WT is about getting every dollar out of its people it can. It faces an aging membership and they have in the main no super (retirement saving) and can not donate any more than they have.The WT is capable of anything.

Anyone remember the scene where they wanted kids to start a money box so they could donate their ice cream money to the WT?

This will mean when that fountain has dried up a very large body of people then going to the various government depts or charities to house them.

Governments like Australia's.. wake up!

people here who have major disabilities now cant get a disability pension due to impossible to meet criteria and the government should be looking very hard at the WT and its $$ exporting business.

remove the WT charity exemption of the WT
stop the exporting of $ to the US head office
lean on them to sign on to the National Redress Scheme.

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Now Canada's Turn

by newsheep in

just got a phone call this morning from a very upset anointed brother.

he said he didn't believe me when i told him about the pedo problem and selling off of halls.

he said he was disgusted with the watchtower and had to go to a special meeting last night.

zeb

This ongoing sell off tells me evermore that the gb are not running the show at all its being run by some very nasty lawyer/accountant types who have attached themselves like limpets to the wt operation because of the mountain of cash and cashcows therein.

Once the $$ pile gets below a certain level they will cut and run leaving whatever remains of the congs to their fate whatever that may be; indeed this is perhaps what is happening with all these congs that are being sold up?

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Crying at the Kingdom Hall these past 2 weeks

by James Jack in

i didn't go to the first sunday(7/14/19) meeting discussing "child abuse".

but i did ask a sister who i work with: how did it go at the watchtower study yesterday?

she said: "i cried throughout the meeting".

zeb

JJ all the more reason for the US to hold a full commission of inquiry into the matter as we held here in Australia.

and the tears.. I can only wonder at my uber wife's response to this article as she must have considered the abuse her/our own suffered a the hands of that 'perfect' brother.

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Are Birthdays now OK?

by rickroll in

i see so many old and young dubbers on fb who are wishing each other a happy bday.

when i was in the cult it was a huge no no.

is this a doctrinal change or is it just a bunch of dubbers who are bending the rules?.

zeb

celebrate the anniversary of someones birth?

I do.!

In recent years I have sent small gifts to grand-kids as I realize how precious kids are. My own now adults get a voucher or a cheeky sms or email. Yes dear friends it did feel strange at first but it is a delight to do this as it is to get a cheeky birthday greeting as well. But I always was oh so so selfish....

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I hate it when they say; “Don’t worry, Jehovah will take care of it”

by I believe in overlapping in

i happen to run into a couple of elders and one of their bible studies was with them.

after we said our formal greetings to each other we caught up on each other’s history.

somehow the conversation took a turn into politics.

zeb

IBIO... "we will see what you have been up to.."--- chills me. That portends an interrogation..

LHG...." I don’t feel obligated to wake any of them up, that’s on them. They have all the same resources available that I had to wake up, they just want to continue to be idiots." ...........
and i feel sorry to those here who attempt to wake up mothers..(!) siblings and former friends; it is a waste of your lifes time and as pointless as the dtd work was.

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My own mother would rather see my death

by GetMeOutofHere in

apparently, according to my mother, the worst thing that could happen to me is not dying in a car crash or getting cancer but instead would be me leaving jehovah and his organization.

i of course realize this is the position of jws but to hear my own mother verbalize it on a gentle walk in the woods was painful to say the least.

needless to say, i cannot tell her i am mentally out..

zeb

please dear friends, so often 'mothers' come up saying such things and I am reminded that when they have an age/ health related collapse it is the non jw offspring who rally to the cause of running them around, taking them to doctors or shopping.

If in the future these parents come begging for money suggest they should speak to their elders,or write to the society for their needs and leave it there.

Peacefulpete... well said.

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Review: 2019 Regional Convention

by neat blue dog in

so here's some random highlights from the convention this year:.

in a couple of videos, they promote a very negative attitude about bettering yourself and taking career opportunities.

for instance, in one video a boy is either getting a college offer or at a job fair, i can't remember exactly, but first he imagines getting better off financially, and then he turns around and imagines losing his money and losing his nice car.

zeb

This is a quote on education that I have kept and says it all.

"the Awake! Magazine came out with some very clear direction to teenagers. The May 22, 1969 issue on page 15 stated:

If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the “last days” in 1914, Jesus foretold: “This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.” – Matt. 24:34.
Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! It’s been 49 years since that article came out!".

The wt bashing of education was a main reason I left.

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Faithful and Prudent slave? read somewhere that the discreet was going to change to Prudent.

by goingthruthemotions in

read on one of the forums, and maybe this one that the gb are going to start calling themselves the faithful and prudent slave.

my pimi brainwashed wife wouldn't bat an eyelash if they started calling themselves this.

to her it would be new light and they could do nothing wrong.. but, how the not so brainwashed flock take this change?

zeb

there will no doubts be a long winded session at the next round of conventions on this monumental change.

As uneducated people they get hung up on a word and then if you notice you will hear it being used by all about you. While I was in I noticed.. hyperbole.. got a workout.

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Now that JWs know there is a pedophile problem...

by Zoos in

... will they take it upon themselves to warn their bible studies of pedophile activity in the congregations so they can protect their children, or will the cycle of abuse continue with the attitude of letting new ones take their chances along with the rest of us?.

zeb

RTN. Add in the voyeuristic way some elders look at any testimony about sex.

Britains BBC Radio 4 reported a doco on the wt where one sister had been raped. In questioning her the elders asked ..'how far apart were you legs when this happened'. This is voyeurism of a most obscene order.

I was sick left with a growling nausea at hearing this and with difficulty phoned the CARC while in session with the wt executive and revealed this with the link to the counsellors there.

General Eisenhower made German civilians walk through a death camp so they could not deny it had happened. I hope that there will be a time when jw who have piously turned their faces away will be made to gaze upon the horrors they have been wilfully part of.

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Now that JWs know there is a pedophile problem...

by Zoos in

... will they take it upon themselves to warn their bible studies of pedophile activity in the congregations so they can protect their children, or will the cycle of abuse continue with the attitude of letting new ones take their chances along with the rest of us?.

zeb

I said to you all bring little children unto me and you were all so rapped up in each others presence, in your rituals of dress, of grooming of hours you spent advocating the American wt society that you ignored the needs of your children to warmth and safety. When human kind had in-spite of all its struggles brought about an education system that mankind might learn many wonderful things of the world i created you disabused this and kept them in ignorance. But you saw the reality but wilfully repeatedly denied it thus you abused the spirit of my love. When from their highest station my creation investigated the iniquity of child and family abuse of violence and alcohol induced thuggery against defenceless ones you turned your faces away and pretended it didnt exist.

Thus I bring about a new world for my human creation to live in health and peace and you will be part of it as manure making plants grow.