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  OK, spill the beans, which one of us wrote into Biblical Archaeology Review this month about the pronunciation of YHWH?

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  here's the subject:.

  the "q&c" questions and comments section of the journal 'biblical archaeology review' (one of my favorite magazines), jan/feb 2013 , p. 68, someone from illinois wrote the following question:.

  quote: "we've often heard that 'jehovah' is an amalgamation of the unpronounced tetragrammaton (yhwh) and, when spoken, is pronounced "lord" (adonai).

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  OK no reponses besides Satan (thanks Bro)

  Here is the last paragraph of the 4 paragraph response from the 'BAR' writer Jeffrey Tigay, Prof of Hebrew and Semitic Languages ... at Univ of Pennsylvania:

  "We can't pinpoint exactly when Adonai came to be the preferred substitute, but it is likely that Jews of the first century, including Jesus and his followers, did use this or another substitute."

  translation: Tigay is saying that Jesus did NOT say YHWH, Yahweh, or any equivalent, but used the words that were substituted, like Adonai

  Thank you , Jeff Tigay!
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  OK, spill the beans, which one of us wrote into Biblical Archaeology Review this month about the pronunciation of YHWH?

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  here's the subject:.

  the "q&c" questions and comments section of the journal 'biblical archaeology review' (one of my favorite magazines), jan/feb 2013 , p. 68, someone from illinois wrote the following question:.

  quote: "we've often heard that 'jehovah' is an amalgamation of the unpronounced tetragrammaton (yhwh) and, when spoken, is pronounced "lord" (adonai).

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  Here's the subject:

  The "Q&C" Questions and Comments section of the journal 'Biblical Archaeology Review' (one of my favorite magazines), Jan/Feb 2013 , p. 68, someone from Illinois wrote the following question:

  Quote: "We've often heard that 'Jehovah' is an amalgamation of the unpronounced Tetragrammaton (YHWH) and, when spoken, is pronounced "Lord" (Adonai). Dd this start as a rabbinic practice? Would Jews of the first century, including Jesus and his followers, have avoided saying YHWH out loud? Can you explain this?"

  OK, fess up! Only an Ex-JW would write this using this wording! Who was it?
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  'Our Friend Sparlock' DVD is about to get the AX

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

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  letter was read yesterday that the 'listen, obey' dvd (featuring sparlock) will no longer be produced starting in january, 2013 (midwest us).

  the content will be available only on line at jw.org.

  future releases of video or songs in the same series will also be available only online.

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  Letter was read yesterday that the 'Listen, Obey' DVD (featuring Sparlock) will no longer be produced starting in January, 2013 (midwest US). The content will be available only on line at jw.org. Future releases of video or songs in the same series will also be available only online. There will be something released about every month at that source.

  This gives them the ability to edit/delete the Sparlock scenes from the online version. How much you want to bet that Sparlock gets the ax?
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  What strand of Christianity gave birth to WTBTS?

  by Band on the Run in

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  2. beliefs

  i know about johnathan edwards and william miller being some of the forerunners of the wtbts.

  how about much earlier in time?

  was there a group during the middle ages or even earlier that preached something similar to the wt doctrine?

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  If you look at this sideways, it looks like a Menorah! That proves it, and there are 10 arrows, representing the 10 lost tribe of Israel! Wow the things you learn on JWD
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  Baptismal Questions CHANGE AGAIN!

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. beliefs

  i attended recently a circuit assembly and notice a change in the wording of the 2nd baptismal question .it used to be :.

  "do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit-directed organization?

  now they changed it to :.

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  I find this hilarious from maisha's post;

  spiritual direction being provided by an ecclesiastical Governing Body, the Worldwide Order of Special Full time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses

  They are essentially saying they are like the catholic church and their people are like monks in a monastery. I know they are just presenting it this way for legal reasons to get them in the country, but it's ridiculous. I've know a number of Bethelites in my time and they're no monks.

  Question: religious ministers who have made a vow of obedience and poverty

  Is this for real? Do they really have to make a vow? What if they have money in the bank, for whatever reason, inheritance, etc. do they turn it over or what?
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  My mother passed away this morning...

  by Tatiana in

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  for any old-school ex-jws here that remember my many posts about my abusive jw mother and my sister committing suicide because of it...she passed away this morning because she began to bleed out and refused a transfusion.

  she had been in the hospital for a month.

  it appears she suffered a stroke and wasn't found by the brothers & sisters for three days (they missed her at the meetings).

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  My mom passed in '08 and it changed my life. I had never until then seen someone die while I was holding their hand and looking them in the eye. I'll never be the same.

  deepest condolences, Tat
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  As of September 2012,20 branch offices are CLOSING DOWN

  by raymond frantz in

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  2. scandals

  fresh out of the jw.org website http://www.jw.org/en/news/by-region/world/jehovahs-witnesses-office-consolidation/ .

  the society as from september 2012 is closing 20 branches worldwide .the best bit is the last paragraph :.

  workers are available to spend more time preachingbecause of the mergers, qualified ministers who had been serving in small branches can now concentrate on preaching the good news.. a witness in africa, who was reassigned to the preaching activity, wrote: "adjusting my lifestyle to suit the new circumstances was a challenge during the first few months.

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  Please, can anyone point out any African Branch that was closed? Then we figure out what statement that brother in question refers to.

  The JW site in the original post has an accompanying map which seems to show the locations. The African one is somewhere near Nigeria.

  Given that we have known about the Central America-to-Mexico consolidation for quite a while, I am uncertain how much of this is news, and how much is just a repeat of last years news.
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  Watchtower's Weirdest Photograph?

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  watchtower's weirdest photograph?.

  you wont believe it when you see it.

  and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2012/10/watchtowers-weirdest-photograph.html.

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  Honestly, though I would like to think that there is some kind of cover-up/ photo manipulation (ala Lenin and Trotsky), I think it is just really poor photography. I think (someone correct me if I am wrong) this photo is in the 124 Columbia Hts dining room, which was still being used as a dining roome last time I was there (sorry so say that was in the late '70's... oops I just gave away my age...) It is disheartening to see how obviously sad those people are, especially Van Ambergh's wife... my god if I ever see my wife so downtrodden, just shoot me.
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  Are the Adventists looking to attract downtrodden JW's?

  by donny in

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  2. bible

  sorry if anyone has already posted on this but i did not see anything related in the few pages of active topics i checked.. last saturday i went to an oil change facilty and one of their perks is they give you a copy of the current usa today while you wait in your car.

  on page 8a is a full page ad titled "liberty of conscience threatened.... a national sunday law will be established as the mark of the beast.".

  the article then goes on a typical adventist rant about how saturday, not sunday, is the real sabbath established by god.

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  This post has has raised a number of interesting observations about the SDA, but the original post is based on an apparent misprint. As someone else has already noticed, the New World Translation in English does not read as is stated in the OP, and does not use the word 'Saturday' there in Acts 20:7. The newspaper ad referred to must be a misprint and is referring to another translation.
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  Oompa, I'm sorry...

  by Mr. Falcon in

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  oompa,.

  i'm sorry that you had to endure the pain you did.

  regardless if you believe in god or not, what you were going through was sheer hell.. i'll keep this short, i won't eulogize you too long, 'cause i can kind of detect that you'd hate that.

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  Eric, I have lost two other dear ones, besides you, my friend, I miss you all,

  Andrea,

  John,

  and now Eric,

  three times now I have dropped the ball and not recognized when the time was right to ask my friend, "What can I do?"

  From the other side, Promise me this one thing, help me understand when to help