Posts by NewYork44M

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GEOFFREY JACKSON THE PERSONABLE FACE OF JW.ORG...BUT IT AIN'T OVER YET BUDDY

by steve2 in

since geoffrey jackson's appearance before the australian royal commission on friday there has for some been an expressed feeling of anticlimax.

it is as though he was given too much latitude to preach, to claim ignorance and to skirt questions.

more to the point, as much as i myself thought i would never have expected to say this, gj actually came across as likeable and - don't throttle me please!

NewYork44M

This is a marathon. I agree with the comment that these proceedings change the strategy for all future court cases. For example, do you think that Monica Applewhite's career will ever recover after this? Her days of expert witnessing are over.

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Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

by Calebs Airplane in

within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

NewYork44M

Having him describe the religion makes it sound even more goofy.

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Royal Commission... Monty Baker?

by Marvin Shilmer in

i see a former elder by the name of monty baker on the royal commission's witness list.

transcripts show a lawyer representing monty baker during the hearings, but so far i see no transcript where monty baker has testified before the commission.

am i missing something?

NewYork44M

It is there. Mostly very objective comments. It clear he has not totally disengaged from his past.

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Has anyone seen any News Media in the U.S cover the Royal Commission story at all?

by wwjdnwt in

i haven't seen anything about this in the news here in the u.s. do the jehovah's witnesses here know what is going on over there?

NewYork44M

This was posted here before - Here is the CNN report

http://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/07/28/australia-jehovah-witness-sex-abuse-hannigan-lklv.cnn

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the rumor again surfaces....

by sowhatnow in

someone please tell me how or if i can find proof that the rumor [that is pasted below] that was posted by a friend [still in, but should know better] on my face book page is false, [which of course we all know it is,] this makes me so angry, i have to stick my neck out and comment on this post but need something to back me up....anyone want to enlighten me where this got started?

i need proof he never said such a thing, it seems to me its false.

whats interesting is this, the bible in the photo accompanying the statement below is the latest version.... [photo].

NewYork44M

As was stated - the whole concept of being "most accurate" is extremely subjective.

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Australian RC - Hot topic

by punkofnice in

i have listened to segments of the hearing.. i am really impressed with the way the rc are well informed about jw procedure and the 'flock book'.. does anyone know how the rc got so clued up?

are they just that good at what they do?

(not saying they're not).. have 'mentally diseased apostates(tm)' been of use to the rc?.

NewYork44M

I am very impressed with the homework these people did. One of the criticisms that a JWs makes when an outsider speaks about the religion is that they don't understand the language and culture. The RC absolutely has a handle on the JW-speak.

Do you notice how they as questions in such a professional and non-judgmental perspective. The example that comes up is their questioning of Applewhite about elders being appointed by holy spirit. They knew the literature They also knew how to as questions with no indication that they had an opinion about the subject matter. Those skills don't happen by accident.

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Confidentiality. Confidentiality. Confidentiality. RC Hearing Day 5

by passwordprotected in

confidentiality.

how many times does ron de rooy state the importance of jehovah's witnesses being confidential?.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qucn5azi5gk&index=17&list=plpq6kz-aghvqbadlzmqn26dvmpzddxlui.

NewYork44M

These videos are great. I will put this in my queue. If I start watching right now I will never get anything done.

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boom!

by username in

just before the morning adjournment in the australian proceedings the judge played an absolute blinder.. he asked the elder as in deuteronomy would the jehovah's witnesses stone a woman for committing adultery?!

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NewYork44M

I am so unbelievably impressed with the professionalism ad thoroughness of the RC. They did their homework.

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What direction will the government take from the Royal Commission?

by barry in

jw
friends

i have a friend at church that is a lawyer and he writes laws for the governments health department.. i asked him what the government will do with the directions of the royal commission?

he believes australian laws are already adequate and there will be no change in that area.

he added where we may see changes is in the area of compensation and that millions of dollars in compensation may be replaced with with tens of millions by guilty organisations.

NewYork44M

I wonder if there will be any discussion about removing their not-for-profit status?

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JW EXPERT WITNESS FLOORED BY COMMISSION OF INQUIRY LAWYER

by steve2 in

much has already been written about dr monica applewhite, the expert witness hired by the jw organization.

her job was to provide "expert" testimony to the australian commission of inquiry into jehovsh's witnesses' policies and practices on child sexual abuse.

astonishingly, dr applewhite was unprepared for the inquiry lawyers' questions.

NewYork44M

If anyone is interested, here is the link to the article mentioned in part 3 of YouTube Presentations