this exerpt is taken from the july 15,2011 issue of the wt.
study article for sept 19-25th.
(bolding mines) this was under the subheading "when someone we love leaves jehovah".
@ stillstuckcruz: Yes, it's "Reasoning From the Scriptures" (or at least that's what they say) until you're IN. Then, if you ever disagree you are OUT and it's now, "Shunning From the Scriptures".
If I can't convince you with my faulty logic, then let me manipulate your emotions.
i occasionally recollect over some of the female bethelites - especially the hot ones.
i was there in the 90s, when the commuter program was in full swing and sisters would sign up as commuters often to snage a full-time bethelite.
anyone remember the wiggins sisters?
Only a guy would start such a lame thread. Sorry, but I couldn't resist pointing that out.
And puh-leeze don't anybody even think of playing the race card!
i occasionally recollect over some of the female bethelites - especially the hot ones.
i was there in the 90s, when the commuter program was in full swing and sisters would sign up as commuters often to snage a full-time bethelite.
anyone remember the wiggins sisters?
Interesting, there are/were "hot Bethel chicks" but apparently no "Bethel Stud Muffins".
Just a bunch of nerdy-nerds ...
in 1889 the wbt$ predicts in detail the spiritistic scheming priestcraft it would come to embrace (due to the harlotrous gb's insatiable lust for graven unnatural spiritual intercourse or prostitution with demons):.
"the underlying principle of the great reformation, to which all protestants look back with pride, was the right of individual judgment in the interpretation of the scriptures, in opposition to the papal dogma of submission to clerical authority and interpretation.
on this very point was the whole issue of the great movement.
In response to Scenic's quip, "Of course, this all depends on how you define soon, threshold, imminent, rapidly, and shortly!"
if you are visiting this site for the first time, or for the first time in a long while, i would appreciate if you could click on the following link and participate in the 2011 global survey of jehovah's witnesses.
both active jehovah's witnesses and former jehovah's witnesses around the world are invited to participate anonymously, and the results will be forwarded to the governing body and world's media.. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/t7zm5zc.
this thread will be updated with the results of the survey (for the time being at least) should you be interested.. in its first 3 days, the survey collected close to 400 responses.
OK, Cedars and Outlaw. Knock it off, don't make me pull this car over!
this exerpt is taken from the july 15,2011 issue of the wt.
study article for sept 19-25th.
(bolding mines) this was under the subheading "when someone we love leaves jehovah".
Nice catch stillstuckcruz! The problem with most active JWs is that their Critical Thinking Skills are zero or below!
hi everyone.
as a parting gift to you all before i take a much needed break from this forum, i thought you would be pleased to know that the independent, a leading uk newspaper, will be publishing a piece on the "mentally diseased" watchtower article in tomorrow's edition.. i would like to thank everybody who has assisted the journalist, jerome taylor, in his investigation.. best wishes to all of you,.
cedars.
Good work. I too will look for a link to that article!
Cheers,
Daniel
i was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.
the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.
when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".
The reasons people leave the WT Organization are many and varied. Some leave for one reason only, but most leave for several. It's usually just not that simple.
But the completely dishonest thing about the WT is that it characterizes ALL who leave as wicked and as leaving Jehovah. I know personally that many leave to be CLOSER to Jehovah.
It is equally dishonest to label the "leaver" as preferring his worldly lifestyle to a relationship with his family. That is just so much crap it's hard to hear it without getting angry. The fact is, it is the JWs that put these bogus conditions on the relationship. Virtually everyone that doesn't want to be a JW any longer would still love to freely associate with friends and family members that remain "captives to the concept." Let's place blame where it is due: it is the JWs that discontinue the relationship and shun, not the other way around.
Their so-called "logic" is no different than that of any abuser that blames the victim for their abuse. It is shameful and wrong. The people that leave because they disagree and want to pursue their own lives free from the control-freaks in Brooklyn are the courageous ones.
i was a hair away from telling my wife i never wanted to go to the kingdom hall again after today's watchtower.
the conductor mentioned something along the lines of..."if you think having to shun your disfellowshipped children is bad...you should read up on the israelites.
when one of their children was disobedient to the law, they had to take the before the judges so that they could be stoned to death...and guess who's job it was throw the first stone?".
And don't forget one point of the Mosaic Law was supposedly to show that humans can't live by law!
What wretched creatures we humans are!
this appeared in 1975; i was 23 at the time.
i don't remember this article and if i had been born in 1975 would the 36-year-old i'd be today be motivated for any reason to research it.. *** w75 11/1 p. 651 insight on the news ***insight on the news pray now, pay later.
the phrase pray now, pay later appeared in a headline of the philadelphia inquirer in reporting on a church experiment due to go into effect shortly.
I remember when I joined up in the early '80s the society was also anti-computers. They're pretty into them now!
Which reminds me of another thread I want to start on the subject of large gatherings ...
