Posts by alcyone

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

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friends

it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

alcyone

A Believer you have not been baptised yet, but you are using tactics of long time JW apologist. Instead of addressing the point you place here a massive amount of text. Is it so difficult to say simply Prov 8:1-30? Do you think nobody is able to find it in his Bible? Perhaps you should paste here complete Book of Proverbs or the whole Bible...

Instead of diverting attention to JW shaky interpretation of Prov. 8 you should focus more on answering all those difficult question you find in this thread. Then you can add your conclusion why none of predictions made by "God's sole communication channel" has been ever fulfilled.

Edit: I see in meantime you shortened your comment...

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Which bible translation do you think is best and most acurate?

by NikL in

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friends

for those that still care to read the bible of course.

those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).

i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.

alcyone

Benjamin Kedar:

a) is not a linguist / Bible translator

b) he comments only the OT part of NWT

The OT part is not a major problem although it alters words sometimes - for example "70 years at Babylon" instead of "for".

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

jw
friends

it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

alcyone

7:5-8 Are definite numbers making up the definite 144000

This is not a JW teaching. The org says:

12,000 from one tribe = figurative

144,000 = literal

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

jw
friends

it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

alcyone

Also - symbolism of 'wolves in sheep clothes' - this implies somebody is trying to hide his true identity.

Do you feel the GB is transparent, showing financial statements of the WTS (and the related corp's), properly informing about problems (can you find info on the ARC 2015 on jw.org?), apologizing for the past mistakes (I do not mean admitting them only), properly showing sources quoted in the WT, etc.?

Are they not like wolves?

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I am glad to have found the true religion

by A Believer in

jw
friends

it really is great.

i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.

i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.

alcyone

A Believer, let us imagine we live in 1725 AD... tell me how would you search for the true org (TM) if we live in that year.

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Jehovahs Witnesses condemn Christian Religions .In reality Christian religions are Caring for Aged JW`s.

by smiddy in

who are looking after the aged and infirm jehovah`s witnesses ,?

its certainly not the organization known as the wtb&ts ./jehovahs witnesses religion .. and why is that ?

satans system of things with jehovahs blessing , has programs to look after those who have such needs , such as the dole for unemployed ,medical assistance for those who cant afford it ,and their are many charitable institutions that look after those that fall in the cracks.

alcyone

what is described in this thread shows a new dimension of Biblical prophecy as interpreted by the WTS

see ip2, pg. 315:

But in 1919, Jehovah repurchased his anointed servants from captivity, and since then he has blessed them with unprecedented expansion and spiritual prosperity. His people have sucked “the milk of nations,” using resources from the nations for the advancement of true worship.

So they really suck the nations:

- use fractions from blood they never donate

- use charity facilities run by "the Christendom"

- ...

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Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

by krismalone in

a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

alcyone

LevelThePlayingField, in communist Czechoslovakia that was the case. It was mandatory to have 'a normal work' and JWs were not registered religion, hence no religious ministers were allowed. Every CO except invalids, retired, etc. had a secular work. Circuits were smaller and he spend two weekends / month in one congregation.

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Mexico branch......Now closing!!!

by krismalone in

a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.

i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!

this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.

alcyone

I feel COs are kind of middle management they need to run the organization. Completely dependent on the organization, benefits better than in Bethel, motivated, loyal... If they drop this 'arrangement' and force them to find a job to support themselves... I am wondering what effect it will have on the COs loyalty.

Now being a CO is quite a good position - company car, green handshakes, celebrity status, 17 hours per week ministry, 'free time' from Sunday noon till Tuesday. The COs do anything to keep this position, but what they will do in case they need to find a job? Maybe they will extract more as 'voluntary gifts' from the congos and avoid secular employment anyway.

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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?

by Thisismein1972 in

come on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.

this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.

😅😅😅.

alcyone

A Believer, you are saying you have studied other religions in the past weeks and you reassured yourself you are in the truth.

May I ask you to be more specific on how you conducted your research?

You say for example you studied history of Christian church in the first centuries.

How did you do it?

Can you list books you read, perhaps webpages you examined, primary sources you went through etc.?

Or you just used defendingjehovahswitness, the third witness and other JW apologetic sources to reaffirm your beliefs?

Have you tried to read the Studies in Scriptures or some Rutherford books? Or EGW's 'The Great Controversy' to understand religious climate in 19th century?

Have you picked some 'old truth' and tried to understand why it is wrong? Where the FDS did the mistake?

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New KH being built near where I live

by A Believer in

there are two kingdom halls in two parts of the county i live in.

one is smaller and their are already about to begin work to replace with a new one.. just posting because i noticed posts saying their wasn't new khs being built.

and i learned this today from someone..

alcyone

A Believer... be careful when you show the pictures. If the elders in your congo identify you they will bring you to ~~Sanhedrin~~ judicial committee.