i would like to see ex jw males on youtube to be more clean cut and look like jws so current jws would most likely listen to them.
i am just giving you my opinion.
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Yeah my husband should dress up in a suit and tie and shave to get them to listen to him. I'm sure they would say "Well, his ideas sound apostate but....he is wearing a tie and doesn't have a beard so it MUST be true."
Sounds funny but it could actually work. They have been trained to be judgmental.
http://www.archive.org/details/spirituallydeadchildren.
you have to be fucking kidding me... this is mind control at it's best.
encouraging parents to ignore their kids who have left the jw's and blaming the kids themselves for the rift that's caused.
I literally feel sick to my stomach. I stopped listening to it after 15 min or so. I don't need this anger right now....thanks for sharing though!
i haven't posted on here much recently but i thought out of everything that has happened since my husband and i together left the jw's, this was tame enough and not as drama-laden enough to share.... i have been married and out of the house for only about a year and a half, and since then, i have not been attending meetings after learning the truth about the "truth".
of course, i have caught flack for it but my family is on this new passive-aggressive kick; trying to guilt me about leaving without actually outwardly saying anything.. today, my sister (the new young regular pioneer) invited me (the apostate) over to my mother's house to hang out and maybe watch a movie.
i was responsible for picking the movie.
aw, man.. It sounds like your uncle was totally duped, Lilblue. That scene you described made me chuckle though. Reminds me of my field service days when you found all sorts of surprises behind that door...
Thanks! that makes a lot of sense NC
i haven't posted on here much recently but i thought out of everything that has happened since my husband and i together left the jw's, this was tame enough and not as drama-laden enough to share.... i have been married and out of the house for only about a year and a half, and since then, i have not been attending meetings after learning the truth about the "truth".
of course, i have caught flack for it but my family is on this new passive-aggressive kick; trying to guilt me about leaving without actually outwardly saying anything.. today, my sister (the new young regular pioneer) invited me (the apostate) over to my mother's house to hang out and maybe watch a movie.
i was responsible for picking the movie.
Thanks so much for your input ladies. It's difficult to go against the grain, and sometimes it gets so bad that I just feel like toting my Crisis of Concience book and slapping it down on a random elder's lap so the decision could be made for me. I hate walking on eggshells and there's all this "grey area" you don't really know how to behave in.. It's just a crappy situation altogether and sometimes its hard to really define or outline the pros and cons. Hopefully some day it will get easier.
i haven't posted on here much recently but i thought out of everything that has happened since my husband and i together left the jw's, this was tame enough and not as drama-laden enough to share.... i have been married and out of the house for only about a year and a half, and since then, i have not been attending meetings after learning the truth about the "truth".
of course, i have caught flack for it but my family is on this new passive-aggressive kick; trying to guilt me about leaving without actually outwardly saying anything.. today, my sister (the new young regular pioneer) invited me (the apostate) over to my mother's house to hang out and maybe watch a movie.
i was responsible for picking the movie.
Hello All! I haven't posted on here much recently but I thought out of everything that has happened since my husband and I together left the JW's, this was tame enough and not as drama-laden enough to share...
I have been married and out of the house for only about a year and a half, and since then, I have not been attending meetings after learning the truth about the "Truth". Of course, I have caught flack for it but my family is on this new passive-aggressive kick; trying to guilt me about leaving without actually outwardly saying anything.
Today, my sister (the new young regular pioneer) invited me (the apostate) over to my mother's house to hang out and maybe watch a movie. I was responsible for picking the movie. I went to a Redbox and tried to find a mild comedy and I figured it couldnt be too hard to find something witness-friendly. There was all but one movie in the genre not rated R. As it turned out, the movie turned out to be a play, and not even a funny one. So we stopped watching it, and wouldnt you know it, our very own "Princess Ileana of Romania" of my old hall showed up. There is always one in the hall. A beautiful girl that hasn't married, travels to "where the need is great" and learns foreign languages to help recruit more members. As if my sister's rather clumsy tip-toeing around the subject of religion was not enough, here comes another regular pio-sneer who once was my friend and they start talking about the Watchtower articles and field service making me very uncomfortable. its like everyone in my family went uber-dub after the I, the bad seed, as my narcissistic mother always called me, left home. It makes me really sad for them. When I try to reason that some people are just so afraid of independence and free thinking they actually need religion to function, it sometimes makes me feel better but when I think more in depth about it, it makes me even more sad people could be that closed-minded, weak in character, and blind to the world. If my they only knew about all the things I have recently found out about the cult, and about the web of lies that hold it together, I believe they would either be so disillusioned with the whole thing that it would snap them out in a really violent way which would probably cause more harm than good, or on the flip of that coin they will become even more unhealthily obsessed with "The Lie" and defeind it by saying it's all apostate lies nad Satan is out to get everyone who beleives the truth. I was so uncomfortable there and I had to fight the urge to just roll my eyes and gag at EVERY turn. It feels as if they talk about religion more than they did when I lived there. I had to cut my visit short and just get out of there! It was that upsetting to see such a pathetic scene. It's so weird to think that eventhough I always felt in my heart that there was something fishy... well maybe that's not the right word... something shady going on in the JWs, this scene used to be normal to me; something that I accepted as commonplace.
My question to you guys is, does it only feel like all the dubs around you go Uber-Dub after someone close to them leaves or is it just that I perceive it as such because I am so sensitive to the lies that I grew up hearing so I notice it more? Has anyone experienced something like this? How do you guys react? I feel badly about just walking away but it was just too much to bear at the time.
i have been noticing we ex-jw's are very different in our choices of beliefs once we leave the wts.
some choose christianity, others flee christianity.
some find they can't beieve in anything any more.
I am an atheist by definition, I guess you could call it. I too say: "I have to see it to believe it" but I don't really think about it. I do what feels good. I read my horoscope once in awhile. when I look at nature I think that possibly a sentient being created all of this but left it as a legacy, an inheritance for us to govern... Did anyone attend a cosmic funeral?? I dunno. But for sure I don't believe in an ancient and unverifiable text that says making love to people of the same sex is wrong, slavery is good, and some benign, invisible force guides those greedy, fat bastards in New York.
i have been having an awful week/month/year/life and i just feel like i can not move forward anymore... is like life is passing me by and i am just observing from the side lines.... i am so tired, i just want to sleep and never wake up..... has anyone felt like this?
i tried therapy (twice) an it did not work, i tried volunteering and surrounding myself with other people and things to do, and it works until i have to come home, then that feeling of emptiness returns.... .
i am so tired... i do not know what else to do.... .
excuse me... for the record... I would miss you deeply. you share my blood and I love you.
i like to think that i'm perfectly rational at all times.. so in the interest of making myself more awesome i'd like to admit to and try to to fix a prejudice i think i may have.
but i'd also like to make sure it's not grounded in reality.. .
so earlier i saw a story about a woman who killed her baby in the microwave.
oh hey, this remeinded me about the Craigslist Killer! he was pretty dashing and quite not the personality type you would expect, but, we are all a product of our experiences, so who knows what experiences lead him to target beautiful women?
i like to think that i'm perfectly rational at all times.. so in the interest of making myself more awesome i'd like to admit to and try to to fix a prejudice i think i may have.
but i'd also like to make sure it's not grounded in reality.. .
so earlier i saw a story about a woman who killed her baby in the microwave.
sure, there are plenty of good looking criminals out there, but Lore makes a good point. Most criminals are ugly. I think it can be perhaps explained as natural selection at work. Think about how these people that later turned criminals grew up. Perhaps as a direct or indirect reaction to their looks, they were marginalized and neglected which can have a powerful effect on a person's psyche, thus starting a chain reaction. It's a cold hard fact that beautiful people are treated better. I know my mom is quite vocal about being thankful she bore good-looking, light complected children which I always had mixed feelings about. my mom is of Italian and Spaniard descent so she is very fair skinned with dark hair and eyes. My dad is darker skinned than she is but not by a lot since he has a little native indian and black in him about 4 generations away. I swear sometimes I hate how people are...
i have been having an awful week/month/year/life and i just feel like i can not move forward anymore... is like life is passing me by and i am just observing from the side lines.... i am so tired, i just want to sleep and never wake up..... has anyone felt like this?
i tried therapy (twice) an it did not work, i tried volunteering and surrounding myself with other people and things to do, and it works until i have to come home, then that feeling of emptiness returns.... .
i am so tired... i do not know what else to do.... .
hey, Mami. so sorry you are not feeling bright and shiny today. I tend to agree with the above posters and I think you are stressing too much about being alone. Talk to somebody new. A woman, like I told you. And you are gonna be close to family now so surround yourself with those who inherently love you.
Besito xx
