I would say a slow change
and for some they will never change
wait on Jehovah excuse.
they will be in the truth till the big " C "
cremation
a roaring current of change..... what is going on at the world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses?
in the last couple of years unprecedented changes in policy, procedure, and doctrine have been coming forth in rapid fire sequence.
this uninterrupted episode of new information is beginning to backfire for the rank and file witnesses.
I would say a slow change
and for some they will never change
wait on Jehovah excuse.
they will be in the truth till the big " C "
cremation
hey what's up everone?
i'm new to here.
it took a while for me to get this hard feelings out of my system....yup....i'm 18 and i'm on my last year of high school...this year i'm taking it online i don't mind it's ok..i do miss the people at school..as u know my parents r jw and i'm one too...i am very active and i do it all for my parents and to avoid confllict but recenlty i just don't like some of bans no what u can and can't do...i'm behind on school beacuse i reg pio...i'm a active person...i really want to leave this reglion beacuse one i can't visit my family grandparents and cousins in europe beacuse they "worldly"....this for me is bs...so stupid....it's my family... if i do leave the jw it's not like i'm going to do drugs and drink or smoke...my goals r to be in the olympics and to start snowboard cross...i'm going to join a snowboard club next season....i don't care anymore about what people think...it's not like i'm doing something bad..it's something that will bring me joy....today my mom was questioning me like crazy about my new jw friend that i ski with....there was a friend of a friend last year that i hang out once with he was a so called good exmaple but he quit the jw and started drinking and smoking so...yup he's dumb...now my mom is like questioning every i associate with..i hardly have any friends and my life sucks..i want to make it better by snowboard more...i'm allowed to go every secound day as long as i prepair for the crappy propangda meetings....ya...support is hard when my parents don't support my dreams but when i do get in the olympics u have only myself to thank beacuse every time i pratice i have bad snowboard days and good i feel like crying at the mountain my heart breaks i want to be faster and better...i want to be the best.. i told my mom i want to be the best snowboarder out there for snowboard cross and she was like humble yourself and all this jw crap...i just don't know how to put it into words.....it's like a backworkd train...i tried to a last attemt at this jw by trying to join a foriegn group...but it failed bad and that was like the straw that broke my back...years of holding my back of trainnign and being active is making me to go crazy ....it's hard i'm just trying to get my pain out when u fall on your snowborad u have to encorage your self u have to train your self u have to push yourself..i wish i could start life all over agian...the war in my country runid a large part and now this....when ur younger u don't know better and this relgion seems good but when u age and watch the olympics like i do and then watch it live...i got a job at the vanoc thing so i was there...it's a different experience to race ....my country did not do so well and i wish i could represent them and get a gold medal....u know it would make my life better....and bring hope to tons of people facing the same story as me....i was a jw from when i was 10 so i kindof miss chirstmas and holidays but i don't care anymore.....my dad came home talk latter.
Hello and welcome
18 is still young
I have never done snowboarding but it sounds like fun
Not being in the olympics is not the end of the world
Go back to school get a good education and get some new friends.
Don`t stay at home get out and about
I hate the G.B. of liers too.
so is everyone here a jaded ex or is it a mixed crowd?
i am da.
with an overzelous mom.
Welcome
I still think it is the truth ,but run by peanuts in bethel who can`t tell the truth and have made jw`s the biggest cult in the world.
i was a gung-ho advocate for jws.
i got on the message boards and would argue down any detractor, apostate, church pastor, disgruntled ex-jw, you name it... i was out in the ministry constantly, practically running from door to door, preaching.
i started studies left and right.
An elder in my congo was DFed for pointing out something that was wrong
Later they changed to agree with what he said but did not bother to tell him he was wright
He was right and they were wrong.
They are not a loving sheppard
Keep your mouth shut or they will DFed you
Stop using your brain.
i ask this question in harmony with deedub's swan song thread which i linked below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/205902/1/time-to-say-good-bye.
to some degree, i think i understand where she's coming from.
just speaking from my own experiences since stepping into the world of anonymous apostacy, i went through a few different phases of personal outlooks.
I can`t go where I am not welcome.
I was always treated badly judged as week etc.
The Governing Body is the Evil Slave .
They twist the truth to support there lies.
Disfellowship rules were changed to get rid of Ray Franz.
That is what they do change the rules when it suits themselves .
[new light]{loose court case ,sex abuse of children,pay tax free watchtower & awake}
They can`t control the internet.
imagine if people simply stopped going to the meetings.
if they stopped showing up to assemblies, conventions, internationl conventions, etc.. no protest, violence, vulgar language, etc.. the elderly, teens, youths, babies, everyone.. we simply let our feelings known by not showing up, not being present, not speaking, by saying nothing.. no explanation to the elders, the c.o's, d.o's, the bethel heavies, or the gb.. we abstain to the higher religious authorities, only speaking amongst ourselves.. no donations, contribuations, etc.. imagine what would happen!.
power to the people!.
What is the half life for the witnesses,time is takes for half the present witnesses ,die, stop going ,wake up,get kicked out..
in respects to the dubs.
what kind of things did you miss out on, accomplish?
for me, i probably would because now i'm free and while in i met my wonderful wife (who is also free) of 18 years.
Only a fool would do things the same
small changes like get educated
get a career that is not for the brain dead [cleaning windows , I don`t like cleaning for other people ]
not live waiting for the big A
be happy .
not sell [place]watchtower lies at the door.
not judge people[weak wordly apostate etc]
get real friends .
with the new " overlap generation " theory that the wt society is pushing onto rank and file jehovah's witnesses since last year this article i found really heavy hitting in the jw version of the wt.
the wt society is leaking oil in that confidence is low among jw's in not really buying into the " generation overlap " theory as many younger jw's are exiting the organization.
so what better way to try reeling members back in by giving them an article entitled " do not deceive yourself with false reasoning " !
watchtower says jehovah is delayed for dinner..
bible says ,if those days had not been cut short
[Jehovah will be early for dinner]
i thought this would be an interesting poll that would show everyone the backgrounds of all of us when we left, if we have.. for myself, i am not df'd, but i am attempting a fade.
i still go to some meetings with the wife to help with kids, but that's it.
no commenting or field service.. what about everyone else?.
I go to the memorial
can any one go after reading CoC
and barbra anderson
silent lambs
etc
internet is only assocation i get with true christians [that is you people here]
other than family.
all Hail the Governing Body.
i went to both collage and uni when i was a jw, i got marked and shunned as a result.
it seemed like every week there would be some dig made from the platform about " those that chose higher education" , my so called "freinds" were constandly on at me " why don't you pioneer highdose?!!".
i even had the ciruit overseer denounce me from the platform as being "spirtualy weak" never mind that most of the peers i grew up with had got themselves reproved or disfellowed and that i was the only who had been good!.
I want an education
to late for meeeeeee......
not going back to the hall ever again