I was 3 when my parents were baptized, always regular in service from age 6, enrolled in the ministry school at 8, baptized at 14, was a MS on and off from age 20, then as I was reaching out to be an elder I found the truth about the truth while doing research for a public talk...at age 54. I continued for a year then I stopped going to the meetings after the DC in 2010. What I heard and saw made me realize that I was in a cult...
Posts by NVR2L8
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At over 60 years in the Cult, Is Lois Lane the Longest serving JW wake up here?
by cantleave ini was in 42 years and thought that was a long time.
do you know anyone else who woke up after being in 60 or 70 years?
it gives me hope that maybe my mum will wake up..................................
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At what age do most or many JWs kids count as "publisher?"
by Gayle inwhat is considered as a requirement for them now-a-days to turn in their time as a "publisher?
" among born-in, how young were you?
my parents became jws when i was 9 yrs old.
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I was 6...many mornings my mom would walk me to school and one block away there was a busy bus stop where we would do street corner work...standing with the large Watchtower and Awake mags of the early sixties...Many of my school mates and teachers would pass by and see me standing there...and after half an hour I would then go to school. That was the routine every morning when mom was a "vacation" pioneer in April.
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Can't they EVER answer a "normal" question?
by mac n cheese inok, so, some jws stopped by my apartment today.
i knew two of the three that came to the door.
they were all very friendly, no mention was made of our long absence from the kingdom hall, even though hubby is sporting a full beard.. here's what i don't get, i asked after several of their family members and the responses were, "oh, my sister and her husband are now regular pioneers" and "he's a ministerial servant now.
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I agree Mac n cheese...every year my now 79 year old pioneer mom sends us a wedding aniversary card...which usually include the latest news about her. It reads exactly like the annoucements at the service meeting...we are having our special assembly day blablablabla, going to pioneer school for the 3rd time blablablabla, your brother the elder, his wife and daughter are pioneering, blablablablabla, may Jehovah bless your marriage, blablablabla, I am so busy in service, the end is near. I asked my brother the elder why is it that we just can't express "normal" feelings for each other without feeling obligated to include the organization or our accomplishments in the ministry? Is it that we have no natural love for each other and that we love the organization more? This year the wedding aniversary card arrived and for the first time in years there were no mention of "theocratic" activities, of Jehovah's blessing...just how much she loves us and our children and grand children and how she wished us the best aniversary ever! I guess my brother the elder talked to her...and that not all is lost.
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New May Awake! Am I being unreasonable or does this sound crazy!?
by toweragent inmy friends usually walked me home after dark.
but one evening i was so tired that i decided to call a taxi.
the driver didnt take me home.
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Marked
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What will kids say when commenting at meetings
by darthfader ini was just mailed this today -- thought it was funny.
(please forgive me if this is a dupe - i tried to search for similar jokes on this site).. .
oops too much tv time watching those commercials!.
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Watching my 4 year old grand daughter comment at the meeting made me realize that the only difference between our comments was that she repeated words someone else whispered in her ear while I read mine...
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Ok I need some advice on how to decline an elder's appointment....
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in the last 4 months my eyes have been opened to ttatt, my biggest issue is that the elders have been grooming me to appoint me as an elder.
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Grow a beard...
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1973 versus 2013 (40 years later)... How much confidence have J-Dubs lost in the Slave's "End-Time" estimations?
by Calebs Airplane inback in 1973, when i was just a pre-teen, i remember that meetings in general were chock full of persecution talks, great tribulation talks and armageddon talks.
so much so, that there was a hightened sense of anticipation that the end was really just a few years away.
most j-dubs really believed, without any doubt, that freddy's estimation about armageddon in 1975 was a certainty (give or take a few months... not years).
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I was a teenager in the mid 60's and JWs were convinced that specific events wouldn't happen such as the 1976 Olympic Games or that we would not see year 2000. My parents allowed me to leave High School at 16 years old because a good education was valueless since we would be in the new system in a few years. Some were absolutely conviced that their children wouldn't have time to start school...Today we no longer hear them speak with the same certainty...Now they are not serving for a date...at least that what they claim.
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Do you think those at the top realise that it's their fault - suicide as a result of being disfellowshipped?
by jambon1 ini have been stunned to hear of two suicides in our area recently.. this adds to the other 3 that i have known of from the past.. the two recent suicides resulted from 1-the person being gay & hearing a horrific talk at the kingdom hall & 2-the person with problems who was disfelloshipped & then took his life the next week.. it astonished me that jw's in general don't rebel against this sort of thing.
it's an appalling lack of support which leads people to feel distressed, abandoned & unloved.
how the witnesses in the locality can just sail on without giving the cruelty of these measures serious though is beyond me.
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Steve2 - I'm glad you mentioned the WT cautioned their elders about people threatening to take their life during a judicial commitee...and there lies the problem. Most people who commit suicide do not "advertize" their intentions and those who do usually don't follow through or are attempting to get help. Others use the threat of suicide as black mail...So how do elders know the person they are about to isolate from everyone he loves not going to end it all?
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Whats your opinion of the WTS. apologizing now for its past wrongful teachings ?
by Finkelstein insomething happened recently by the wts.
that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.
executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.
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Their admission is like a murderer admiting he killed someone but then attempts to justify his murder rid the world of a worthless shady individual.
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No, I don't want to reconnect to any JWs and have the elders believe that I am now open to talk to them...I asked them to leave me alone and they have for over 2 years...I like it this way.