New May Awake! Am I being unreasonable or does this sound crazy!?

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  • toweragent
    toweragent

    “My friends usually walked me home after dark. But one evening I was so tired that I decided to call a taxi. “The driver didn’t take me home. Instead, he drove me to an abandoned field, where he tried to rape me. I screamed with all my might, and he backed off. When he came toward me again, I screamed and ran. “In the past I had often thought, ‘How can screaming help?’ But I’ve learned that it works!”—KARIN.

    Awake! May 2013 pg. 6

    Doesn't the Tower have a rule that it only counts as rape if you scream? Maybe someone can correct me if I'm wrong?

    I read that with a certain amount of grimace... I'm not sure...but was there an ulterior motive to printing this? Do you guys think this is good advice or does it come short? How about if it were you?

    I'm very protective over my heavily indoctrinated wife, and if anybody did something to her, they would be in for one hell of a beating from me. But she also seems to think that if you don't scream, then it's consensual and you can get in trouble for it.

    What do you guys think?

  • Splash
    Splash

    Sorry to have to post this again, but it's flip-flop time:

    RAPE VICTIM IS GUILTY OF FORNICATION

    WT 64, Jan 15p. 64 teaches if a woman doesn't scream she is guilty of fornication:
    Thusif a Christian woman does not cry out and does not put forth every effort to flee, she would be viewed as consenting to the violation."

    WT 68, Jun 1,confirms guiltiness by adding:
    Would it be different if the man had a weapon and threatened to kill youif you did not submit?No,the Scriptures plainly state thatChristians are under obligation to ‘flee from fornication. (1 Cor. 6:18) It is true that you face the possibility of deathin this case.”

    Aid to Bible Understanding (1969) Acknowledges rape is not fornication - not guilty:
    “RAPE: Rape is defined as unlawful sexual intercourse without the woman’s consent, effected by force, duress, intimidation…”(p. 1374)
    “FORNICATION: Sex relations by mutual agreement between two persons not married to each other.”(p. 601)

    Awake! March 8, 1974, page 14. Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty:

    If she did not scream she would be as good as dead anyhowAlso, thatif she did not scream she would ruin her relationship with Jehovah God and the Christian congregation; that thenshe would be disfellowshippedor excommunicated from it and that this would beworse than being killed as far as she was concerned.”

    Awake! 80, July 8p.5 - 6 New understanding that being raped renders you helpless - not guilty:
    “I never physically fought him off in anyway…I was overwhelmingly confused and defenceless against the whole suddenness.”“Profound terror in the face of physical threats simply renders most women helpless.”

    WT 80 Oct 15, p.7, Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty: She told him that if he touched her she would screamas he had never heard anyone scream before. She explained that if she did not she would ruin her relationship with Jehovah God and the Christian congregation."

    WT 83, Mar 15 p.30 - If raped, not guilty of fornication:

    What do we understand here by ‘fornication’? The Greek word in this text is porneia…. A male or female who is forcibly raped would not be guilty of porneia.” Awake! 84, Feb 22 p. 25 - If you don't fight back you are unforgivably guilty:

    But if I gave in and he raped me, I wouldeventually die and have no hope of a resurrection.”

    Awake! 84, Jun 8p. 28 - If raped, not guilty of fornication: “For the victim to be considered guilty of fornication, there would need to be proof of willing consent.”

    Awake! 86, May 22p. 23 - If you don't fight back you are guilty:
    Whyyoushould resist an attacker from the first moment...Your conscience will be clear. Even if you are raped, you will not sacrifice your self-respect or cleanness before God”

    Awake! 89, Aug 22 p.24 - Restates earlier belief, not screaming means you are guilty :
    “It was then that I remembered the scripture in Deuteronomy chapter 22. It says thatif a woman does not cry out when attacked, it indicatesshe is submitting to the man and is committing a sin against Jehovah.”

    w03 2/1 p. 31 - You may not be able to scream - Not guilty.

    "Therefore, a victim who was unable to scream but otherwise did all she could under the circumstances can leave matters in Jehovah’s hands."

    Splash

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    The story sounds like another WBT$ Fabrication..

    How hard would it be for Police to track a Taxi Driver,in a marked Taxi Cab?..

    Doesn`t make sense..

    Was Andre driving the Taxi Cab?..

    ........................  photo mutley-ani1.gif ...OUTLAW

  • toweragent
    toweragent

    Wow, thanks Splash. Man, what a messed up doctrine...

  • Splash
    Splash

    Bit more:

    HOW TO HANDLE BEING RAPED

    Awake! 80, July 8 p. 12 - Fight back if you think you should:
    “May she properly inflict damage on her assailant? Indeed she may…she may use any means at her disposal to resist intercourse.”

    Awake! 84, Feb 22 - Treat the rapist with respect and understanding:"Treat Him Respectfully – The intended victim should remember that the rapist is a human. No doubt there are circumstances in his life that have precipitated his behaviour. So although a woman should not cower in fear and permit a rapist to intimidate her, at the same time she should treat him understandingly as a fellow human.”

    Awake! 84, Feb 22 p. 25 (Same magazine!!) - You must fight back or else it's an unforgivable sin:

    But if I gave in and he raped me, I would eventually die and have no hope of a resurrection.”

    Awake! 86, May 22p. 23 - You must fight back:
    “Why you should resist an attacker from the first moment...Your conscience will be clear. Even if you are raped, you will not sacrifice your self-respect or cleanness before God”

    Awake! 86, Sept 22 - Fight back if you think you should:
    "True, the woman has to respond according to her assessment of the danger to her life, and we believe that is covered in the advice given in the box on page 23 (May 22, 1986). It should be kept in mind that submitting to rape gives no guarantee that the victim will not be beaten or killed afterward. See the article “They Resisted Rapists” in our issue of February 22, 1984.—ED."

  • moshe
    moshe
    Was Andre driving the Taxi Cab?.

    probably so!!

  • Mum
    Mum

    The screaming issue is one that the borg flip-flops on from time to time. I agree with Outlaw that this story doesn't quite hold together, but is probably fabricated to instill fear in women, who, according to Farkel, the WT ranks just below pond scum.

    There are plenty of real stories of rape and attempted rape. Sometimes not screaming could keep a victim from being killed. Each person has to use her own judgment as to how to handle such a situation. Your wife is lucky to have someone to protect her.

  • Fed-up
    Fed-up

    The rape issue/ flip-flops is one of the stupidest things I've ever read.

    Imagine being an elder, insisting on a judicial committee to determine whether a woman who'd been raped screamed or not...If that woman were my wife, mother or sister I'd beat the $#!T out of that elder. Give me a break. Like forming a committee to deal with someone who'd attempted suicide. There are certain things professionals who understand Post Traumatic Stress Disorder need to handle. Let the Janitors deal with the doctrinal issues.

    “An abnormal reaction to an abnormal situation is normal behavior .” -Viktor Frankl

  • Fed-up
    Fed-up

    Oh, and she made a call to the cab company...Were they not able to track down the call, the cab company and the driver? Come on. Lets hear the rest of the story....

  • wha happened?
    wha happened?

    what 3rd world country do u live in where this is a common scenario? These articles are getting more and more into catering to those 3rd world countries. Anyone reading that in the states will say, "This helps me how?"

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