my wife and i joined probus earlier this year,and we received a medical record card to fill out ( optional ) usual personal information / contacts /medical problems / medications etc.
and comments.
and under comments i have stated i am an organ donor,i reject jw blood doctrine.i accept all medical procedures including blood products.. i felt the need to do this since over the years ,when i was an active witness, i have needed some medical treatment,an operation whereby i made it quite plain i would not accept blood under any circumstances being a jw.
A few months after I stopped attending the meetings I got rid of my medical directive card but I have yet to convince myself to be an organ/blood donor...I guess 50 years in the cult leaves some hang-ups difficult to overcome. At my next visit to my doctor I will make changes to my medical record to make sure I am given all necessary treatments in case of an accident or illness...my only concern is that there is a JW nurse working there and she may rat me out. My wife is still active while I am under the radar...for her and my family's sake I would like to keep it that way. If it was only up to me I would tell the WT where to go...but they have the ability to make life hell for their own members.
Most Christians believe they will go to heaven because that what they were taught...Today's the majority of JWs believe that they will live in a paradise on earth because that what they were taught...but now that the heavenly call had never officially ended in 1935 and that the number of partaker is steadily increasing, who's to say what they believe!
Sinedie: The unknown is like an empty room that you can furnish with what ever you like...the problem is when someone else want to fill your room with their ideas and fears...
After I found out the truth about the WT "truth" my whole way of seeing the future changed. I no longer care nor worry about a "earthly or heavenly" hope at all. If there is no life after this then one day I will just not wake up and that will be the end of it...and if there is I will wake up into a new strange place...I know some people believe in reincarnation...but without any clear memories of your previous life why would it matter? No one has ever come back from the afterlife to give us tangible proof...
further to my post the other day re: jw study who had a conversation with me on facebook and started questioning his beliefs, he has now contacted me back....will post the quotes underneath.. his response:.
yes i did tell some brothers how confused i was about the information you sent me, they said does it matter where charles russel is burried, i aggree its abou god not man, and as for peadophillia in past yes it did happen in congregations, but that happens everywhere and they said they did not promote it obviously and that people leave when they done that dark act, they said that the police have been employed in past, there are no more cases i now of, again i dont blame god for this he will sort them out...havent been for a while now , at the end of the day there is lots of stuff on net and as long as i am doing it whole from my heart no one judges me but god, i have so many beautifulll friends in the truth, i believe jehova does have a body of people in the world , you do what you will and all the best i just want to do well and all the religions are in wars and do what they want , i am up for 1 god 1 tounge and not doin waht the rest proclaim to do and be there own gods.... its just that all this came out of nowhere , our chats and was damaging to god , i have no idea what you believe in but your messin with fire if you ask me , dont get lost in apostasy and youtube as its a minefield of miss trust.
thats my view, i hardly know you well at all and you keep contacting me asking what they say etc , i too tired to feel lowe cos you dont really say anything good about god you just seem to want to deter me, not once have you mentioned love peace , jesus , just on about me being mislead, you catch my drift, dont mean to come across rude as i am a happy man , but i get your point how you feel and i have always known fun love great friendships and a relation ship with yaweh,jehova etc so shall we just talk footy and world as its clear you can damage my spiritual health as we not talking about good stuff just jw people are mislead when we should be in union regarding the coming of jesus famines wars, disease im gagging for it to come.. my response:.
It may already be too late for him...what you told him is confusing him and just a few lame words of reassurance from the elders had him turn on you...apostate! He already believes the WT truth (current truth that is) and facts about the JWs mean nothing. The brothers say it is the truth...it must be so because they are the only one preaching, united, politically neutral and they love each other...There is no deception in the WT, only errors from an unperfect organization, errors corrected in due time under God's direction.
When I was still in I saw one of these tables set up at the San Diego airport. I was with a work associate and I wanted to impress him on how JWs are united...so I stopped by the table and the sisters greated me warmly, as always. They told me they weren't allowed to approach anyone and only spoke to those who came to them at the table. I guess they were happy to finally have someone to talk to...even if I was a JW from Canada.
I was also approached by JWs at the Incheon airport in Seoul, South Korea. Two witnesses who spoke very little English saw me working on my computer while waiting for my airline counter to open so I could check-in. They asked where I was from and offered a tract in English. I opened my wallet and showed them my medical advice card (card I no longer carry). So they stuck around telling me about their life a JWs in South Korea.
I learned a while back that my 79 year old mother who is a long time pioneer has been doing "table" work at her local airport...I guess it is easier than walking all day going door to door.
In the local congregation one of the elders is a prison guard in a medium security facility and there is also a sister working as a guard too. In the same congregation there is a brother who is a uniform court officer and he drives prisoners between the jail and the court house. None of them carry guns but they used pepper spray and a telescopic club...They also go through training on how to subdue prisoners. In my home town I heard that a couple who were both police officers left their job so they could get baptized. Of course both were often on assembly programs and they were pioneering...life was so much better! In my wife's former congregation a police detective could not serve as a MS or elder because he carried a gun. He decided to quit his job and work for Trimline so he could get service privileges at the KHall...of course he was in charge of security at large conventions...
...Cornelieus...wasn't he a soldier when Holy spririt was bestowed on him?
I am still in the moment...but it first started when I realized that the WT was misquoting secular sources to support their teachings. Such dishonnesty lead me broaden the scope of my research. Then when the new light on the generation came along and I read the outline for the final talk before attending the 2010 district convention. On that same day we had the WT review and it was also the article discussing the generation! The brother doing the review look very uncomfortable when it came to these 2 infamous paragraphs and he read word for word the explanation from the WT. I just couldn't wait to see the reaction of the audience when the final talk would be given later that day...That was the deal breaker: people applauding, bobbing their head in approval and worse, most not reacting at all. I was looking at all the older ones siting at ground level taking it all in without realizing that their hope to make it through the big A and never dying had just been crushed, that 5 years from now most of them would be dead. I was furious. I asked my wife about it on the way home and she had no clue what I was talking about. At that point I told her that I had been at my last meeting...you can imagine the rest of the drive...