this may sound insane but i literally have blood on my hands as i have just come home from a counselling session that went wrong...i wanted to collate all that has happened and record it...hospital policy is against it.
i said "what am i alive for then if not to tell the truth" she tut tutted and i walked out sadly in despair.. when i got to the ground floor there was a young girl screaming her head off.
she was afraid, that is all she was...........afraid.
Very motivating Juliette.
I"ve posted this once before Juliette, but your experience reminded me of it again. Bob Dylan's Brownsville Girl.
"Strange how people who suffer together have stronger connections than people who are most content
I don’t have any regrets, they can talk about me plenty when I’m gone
You always said people don’t do what they believe in, they just do what’s most convenient, then they repent
And I always said, “Hang on to me, baby, and let’s hope that the roof stays on”
i'm sure this has been discussed before, but i have been thinking the last few days about all of us.
the "evil apostate" family.
we all have suffered at the hands of the org and their brain washing of our family and friends.
i've been looking again at the coverage of the arc examination of jw witnesses.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bonw67c9sew.
in particular, watch this again from 1h47m to the end.. i think i've made this point elsewhere, but you will rarely see this sort of thing happening in courts (maybe outside tv perry mason stuff).. in the context of british/aussie polite courtroom speak, the witness is accused of lying, his (the wt) lawyer is quick to disassociate himself from the lies, the lawyer offers a consultant's sick certificate, the judge tells him 'that won't help', and jackson is scheduled for the following week.. this doesn't happen very often and stripping away the polite courtroom speak is very revealing..
I think the goal of the RC in this segment is to clearly establish that Terrence O'Brien is a liar. But not only is O'Brien a liar, but freeze-frame the video at 1:49:04 and then tell me that those WT lawyers aren't in on this whole lie. Their reaction is very telling. That look is the look of pure guilt...they've been cornered and caught in their deception. Everyone in that courtroom knows as well as the whole world watching this.
WT is so paranoid of this type of exposure b/c it reveals to everyone that they are fully aware that they are a part of a fake religion. It has been debated often whether the GB knows they are lying or if they really believe their own bs. I submit this as evidence that they do in fact know.
an unwelcome dawn comes creeping upward, her tendrils straddling the dark mountain so terribly near my once sweet but now quaking refuge called home of the heart.. i peer through panes that give onto a landscape of horror that, to some, appears pristine but to me is a reminder that he has been swallowed up by a wood both black and cruel.. daring to venture forth, i hear his voice .
.
.. he calls out, so faintly, begging i rescue him from a jail that holds him fast against all escape; though myself a liberated man, i cannot free the one i taught the truth.
you know the organization is slowly going down.
not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.
five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.
To be honest, I'm starting to dislike this thread. Just the idea of JWs still being here in 2050 is stressing me out. Now i have to go re-watch RC hearings just to get the bad taste out of my mouth.
(oh, this is off-topic, & I don't know if everyone knows this or not - but we have a resident prophet here on this forum. It's true... maybe we should just go ask him about this. I watched in amazement his predictions come true right before my very eyes not long ago):
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/425910001/gb-member-geoffrey-jackson-lying
Billy, where are u???
i have heard that phrase several times on the jw broadcast, uttered by gb members!
"the governing body has asked me to bring to your attention (whatever)".
aren't you the governing body?
steve2
them british over thar shore talk funny. what the hell is "puffery"?? In Georgia USA we call it bullshit.
i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.
there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.
they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.
I could give you a big hug right now.
I've been hoping for a post like this. you just made my day.
The RC sees WT for what it is now... a pathetic excuse of a Christian religion. WT must know this is how others are viewing them now, hence the sudden surge in "shepherding calls" if that's what you want to call them. They wouldn't know how to undue the damage they have done if their lives depended on it. Geoffrey Jackson wants the RC to see to it that a law is passed forcing them to do the right thing. But finally people have someone they can actually trust.
Sounds like this thing is starting to snowball now...just what i wanted to hear!
Thanks for posting and please keep us updated on what you hear further.
evening folks, so as some of you may know we have recently decided to leave the witnesses and can see it for the man made organisation it is.
so, why do i get the urge to go back and feel guilty for not being there!
it's like my mind is telling me to be logical about it all but then something keeps pulling me back.. don't get me wrong i really want to break free from it all and i'm resisting the urge to go back as i have been miserable in the truth for a long time as i've known it's not right and want to do the best by my daughter.
yes i agree with all the above comments about WT indoctrination. It's chilling how people can have blind obedience to a man-made money-making organization which doesn’t care about individuals -- very scary.
You have an amazing brain, with the ability to decide for yourself what is right and wrong.
The “kool-aid” has already been distributed.
We've been drinking false teachings for years with dire results for many - some of the deadly ones being mentioned about. Every member in the congregation being unaware of active sexual predators is another.
But you are aware of this now. It is up to you to find a path that you can follow.
evening folks, so as some of you may know we have recently decided to leave the witnesses and can see it for the man made organisation it is.
so, why do i get the urge to go back and feel guilty for not being there!
it's like my mind is telling me to be logical about it all but then something keeps pulling me back.. don't get me wrong i really want to break free from it all and i'm resisting the urge to go back as i have been miserable in the truth for a long time as i've known it's not right and want to do the best by my daughter.
If you count up those who died during the vaccination ban, died during the organ transplant ban, during the blood ban. Then those of Malawi, and the Nazi camps. Then the suicides, because of shunning.
It’s way more than Jim Jones and the People’s Temple. More than People’s Temple, Heaven’s Gate, Branch Davidians (Waco) combined.
I think there will come a point where it will be recognized as one of the deadliest cults.
I personally don't want any part of sharing in her sins.
