Why ?
Because they can incite the psychological thinking of creating massacres with "Certain" held to owners.
The gun causes the mental illness?
MeanMrMustard
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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Cause of Mass Shootings Mental Health?
by blondie ini have been sad to see so many groups and individuals say that the cause of these events are the mental status of the shooters.
i have looked over the backgrounds of these shooters, and few had medically identified mental health issues.
it is too easy to think that people shoot or kill other people because they are mentally ill.. actually, many or most people with real mental illnesses are most likely to be the victims of others.. i have been a volunteer with the organization called nami (national alliance of mental lillness) for 25 years now.
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MeanMrMustard
@LongHairGal:
Best to wait for more details. Beto has already jumped the gun (no pun intended), and called for more gun control laws.
It’s amazing that he can’t see past 5 minutes... at all the ways this can backfire. This was a traffic stop. The guy shot the trooper and then took off in an escape, shooting up multiple scenes on the way. It’s not very hard to imagine the guy was already a felon, possessing a firearm illegally. The call for more controls would then make him look foolish.
But, hey... maybe it’s some guy hyped up on crystal meth.. who knows. Either way, this isn’t like a school shooting.
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MeanMrMustard
This is all bunk. The earth is flat. And sometime concave. But it both instances, hollow.
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MeanMrMustard
@DOC:
But that’s exactly my point. Hassan can’t point to Trump, and what he might consider universal political activities (campaign slogans and half truths) and scream “cult!” I wouldn’t accept it being applied to the Democrat side either.
Or, if Hassan wishes to expand the definition of “cult” to include “politics” (and maybe there is an argument for that), then to be consistent, I would expect all political parties to be labeled as a cult.
But we don’t have that here - it’s Trump only. He’s the cult leader. His side is the cult.
Those seem like large red flags of bias waving all around. And it’s a shame too because Hassan has, as far as I can tell, decent points about cults. But he’s applying the term inconsistently, or too broad, or in some cases incorrectly.
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MeanMrMustard
OTWO:
Nah, I don’t think I’ll be spending the money for this book. Bolstering the idea that forking over $30 on Amazon would be too painful is the description:
Over the past two years, Trump’s behavior has become both more disturbing and yet increasingly familiar. He relies on phrases like, “fake news,” “build the wall,” and continues to spread the divisive mentality of us-vs.-them. He lies constantly, has no conscience, never admits when he is wrong, and projects all of his shortcomings on to others. He has become more authoritarian, more outrageous, and yet many of his followers remain blindly devoted.
His behavior has become “disturbing”? By what measure? Could it be that it is disturbing because Hassan doesn’t agree with him, and any policy not coming from a left-wing ideological philosophy is “disturbing”?
Funny thing about “fake news”. I remember when it was first used by the left. Trump had just won, and Democrats everywhere were looking for a scapegoat. “Fake news” was the answer! All the independent creators were using reason and evidence, and damn it, the election shouldn’t have turned out this way. Since then we’ve had one story after another from the mainstream that has turned out to be literal “fake news”. It’s fake because it is not news, it’s activism.
Authoritarian? Well, he is just about Hitler after all, right?
So I think you should wait for the book before you condemn the very idea.
Mmkay... I would be more open to it if the shenanigans he displayed on Rogan never happened. I would also be more open to it if the description of his book listed actual reasons why it is cultish, and not just a smear.Yeah, yeah.. it’s a cult... and we are racists too. Homophobes... white nationalist! He’s authoritarian! etc. All labels, all emotion. No reason.
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MeanMrMustard
Yeah, Hassan lost a bit credibility when he was talking to Rogan about cults and Molyneux. He was claiming his podcast is a cult, and as the discussion progressed, and Rogan pushed back, he talked himself into the exact position Molyneux takes. It was clear he was just labeling based on what seemed to be cult behavior on third party evidence.
And now this? Trump is using mind control?
Good lord.
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Do You Believe The News Media Is Trustworthy?
by minimus inrecently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.
he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.
i’ve known him for many years.
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MeanMrMustard
Another example. According to Tim Pool, #ClintonBodyCount was trending yesterday. Then #TrumpBodyCount started trending, clearly as more of a response to the Clinton body count hashtag. Then, the entire #ClintonBodyCount was removed as a conspiracy theory. #TrumpBodyCount was not removed.
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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?
by minimus inwhen any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?
i’m talking over the last few decades..
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MeanMrMustard
@flipper:
So the El Paso shooter writes a manifesto in which he explicitly denies any motivation from Trump. He even says that he knows it’s likely the media won’t believe him and that they will blame Trump anyway.
So where do we go from here, flipper? The shooter himself has said there was no influence, that he held these views long before Trump, and this was a long time coming. But for you if we take the shooter at his word, it is ‘sticking our head in the sand’?
So I wonder, what is the “similar rhetoric” you refer to? Are you just trusting mainstream sources that he is echoing Trump?
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The Utterly most appalling terrible JW music video you will ever see
by Diogenesister in........so far to date.
you've been warned....https://youtu.be/jjjnt5l5ts0.
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MeanMrMustard
Pfft lol. Bla. When I was young, around 12/13, I went on a glass bottom boat ride. Lots of wildlife, fish. We came to a point where the spring fed river merged into a larger river. The boat had to go through an open gate with large pillars on each side. As we went through there was a monkey on one of the pillars. The monkey was sitting, smiling, and stroking a large erect penis. As the boat past by, he kept stroking proudly for all the kids to see.
There was a shared feeling of laughter and cringe. Wide eyes all around. Silence and scattered snickering.
This video gave me the same feeling.
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Upset and Concerned!
by The Bethelite ini'm very worried.
i just took out two slices of dave's killer bread out of the bag this morning, to make some toast.
i bought the bread almost 2 weeks ago.
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MeanMrMustard
Ah, Ok. Well he does advertise it as “killer” bread. Why is the OP alarmed? Seems like Dave was quite up front regarding the nature of his bread.