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Posts by Ding
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June 2024 WT: Don't talk about Anthony Morris
by neat blue dog inthe latest study edition mentions hypothetical scenarios of jws who are no longer serving at bethel or no longer elders, etc.
and says we shouldn't speculate, as defaming them could border on slander.. we could unintentionally defame someone by spreading negative information.
..... would it be proper to speculate on the reasons why these adjustments were made and to share that opinion with others?.
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Ding
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The changing teachings if Jehovah’s Witnesses
by Vanderhoven7 inthe changing teachings of jehovah's witnesses .
menacingmistral writes:.
"jehovah's witnesses often, not only change 180° from what they used to teach, they change from things they vehemently asserted were absolute truth.
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Ding
How Splane could have given that overlapping generations talk with a straight face is beyond me...
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New light on shunning?
by Mikejw inone theory why tony was booted out was because he was a stickler for not changing the shunning doctrine.
he actually said the words we will never ever change it.. they are slowly deleting all of tony’s videos and now losing court cases and losing government hand outs in places like norway.. it’s looking very likely they will release new light on shunning policy after losing this latest one in norway.. .
what are the odds they coincidentally get new light from jehovah and lighten up their shunning policy ?.
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Ding
I agree with LongHairGal.
The Watchtower can reject you, but don't you dare reject them!
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Who really is the Faithful and Discreet Slave? The recent changes and the Governing Body's 10 year plan
by redsetter2 ini am sure we were all shocked at the governing body update #2 with the unusual and impulsive changes set forth.. i am an insider at whq, and when i was on reddit and in communication with avoidjw i explained to the best of my ability that the approach on disfellowshipping was going to change based on the new light at the 2023 agm, that the jubilee rumor was false, and there were going to be changes on how jws approached disfellowshipping in response to the norway situation if it didn't turn out in watchtower's favor.
the decision came because of a legal blow to watchtower, not because "holy spirit" wad directing a faithful slave, who is going to become the "evil slave", more explanation on this soon.. everything i stated came true.
i left reddit exjw community due to the immature and mentally unstable nature there, and yet as has been the case my words came true.
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Ding
So until 2012 the faithful and discreet slave was wrong about who the faithful and discreet slave is.
But JWs must follow the directives of the faithful and discreet slave--whoever that is--in order to survive Armageddon.
What happens to JWs who followed the directives of the wrong faithful and discreet slave?
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GB Update #2, March 2024: Women allowed to wear pants, no ties/coats required if not giving a talk, & now able to greet DF ones in the KH!
by WingCommander inyou heard me correct, this is not a joke, and it is not april fools day!
the asl portion of the governing body updated #2 (march 2024) has been released a bit early and someone caught it.
summary: .
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Ding
Imagine still being dependent on a group of men in New York to micromanage your life like this.
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Forget 1914, the 1975 generation are now passing away!
by nowwhat? inwe still have quite a few elderly here that came in as young families in the late 1960's-early 70's because soon, yes very soon they would enter the new system and never grow old.
it's now one year away from 50 years since 1975. just in the last couple years i've seen them come down with alzheimer's, cancer, brain tumors, becoming invalid etc.
the children of them that are now around 60 are just so distraught at seeing their parents deteriorate.
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Ding
In 1976, I was amazed when an elder told me to stop focusing on 1975.
For years before that, 1975 was all he did focus on.
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What the Trinitarian perspective on John 8.28?
by slimboyfat inthis is not a verse that i’ve seen feature heavily in trinitarian debates but it seems to me it presents a problem for the trinity.
if there are any around i’d be interested to know your perspective, or anything you can find on the meaning and how it doesn’t contradict the trinity.
the verse says:.
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Ding
The trinity doctrine does not say that the Father and Son are the same person.
That's a teaching called modalism.
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What the Trinitarian perspective on John 8.28?
by slimboyfat inthis is not a verse that i’ve seen feature heavily in trinitarian debates but it seems to me it presents a problem for the trinity.
if there are any around i’d be interested to know your perspective, or anything you can find on the meaning and how it doesn’t contradict the trinity.
the verse says:.
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Ding
The trinitarian view is that this subordination describes the relationship of the Father and the Son, given that the Son is both God and man.
So subordination isn't a contradiction of the trinity doctrine; it's a part of it.
As you know, there are a lot of subordination passages like this, including John 14:28.
Most trinitarians also believe that Jesus rose bodily from the grave, so he is still man as well as God and will be so for all eternity.
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How will history treat Judge Rutherford?
by Vanderhoven7 inmark jones writes:.
how will history treat joseph rutherford?.
like ben gorden has said, it would depend on who’s looking back.
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Ding
Who today even knows who Rutherford was except people with a JW background?
And I bet most of the younger JWs wouldn't even recognize his name at all.
If they did, it would be like most Americans who might be able to tell you that long ago someone named Millard Fillmore was President but couldn't tell you anything else about him.
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Field Service
by Ding infor those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.
are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.
what is the response?.
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Ding
There was definitely a greater sense of urgency as 1975 neared than there is now.