The other side of the coin is that if the WT teaching were correct, we would also expect to read about Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for their superstitious refusal to speak the divine name.
That appears nowhere in the Bible.
the use of the divine name in the nwtcgs
romans 10:9, 13
identifying jesus as jehovah
The other side of the coin is that if the WT teaching were correct, we would also expect to read about Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for their superstitious refusal to speak the divine name.
That appears nowhere in the Bible.
jehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.
the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.
Proof positive that Jesus picked the WT organization to be the faithful and discreet slave in 1919, right?
it's been years since i posted here.
my jw mother died july 5th.
it was quite honestly not that emotional for me.
Sorry for your loss.
Sorry also for what the WT did to you and your family.
our witness friend who during covid grew his beard has been hassled by elders who asked him "why" he chose to have facial growth.
he for real, had to give an answer why.
this is pharasees total rubbish.
Total obedience and uniformity above all...
thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
The answer to the thread's title question is: NO
Condolences to all who live in the UK or in the Commonwealth.
the secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control.“ — charles taze russell zion's watch tower (july 15, 1902), pp.
215-216.. golden age, july 1, 1927..... every bedroom [should receive] at least two hours of sunlight everyday.
[this will] kill tuberculosis and other germs.
How can we not appreciate this spiritual food the slave has been dispensing?
did you ever refuse to go in service with someone?
i did.... i went to the kh to meet for service and 3 brothers were there.
i told the brother taking the lead, that when he made up the car groups to take note i had a plan of my own -the 3 brothers could go together and i would do my own thing.
Sounds like independent thinking, Enoughisenough.
No wonder you left the borg...
just wanted to say hey.
i’m in australia.
i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.
Chickenlips,
Have you read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz? If not, I recommend that you do so. Ray was on the GB and went through many of the things you've been going through.
You said that you had been very depressed because you saw nowhere else to go. That's a major part of the WT indoctrination process. They poison your mind to everything outside the organization.
I believe there are a lot of JWs who realize something is seriously wrong with their religion but they stick with it because the WT has convinced them that every alternative is worse. Not so!
I don't recall if you said to what extent (if at all) you still believe in God, Christ, and the Bible. If you do still have belief in them to some extent, please be aware that not every Christian organization is as legalistic as the WT. Please be aware also that one's relationship to God is dependent on Christ himself, not on which earthly organization you might join. Don't look for the one true Christian organization. It's the WT that has planted in your mind the idea that there is only one of them.They've also planted in your mind the thought that unless it's perfect, a church must be satanic. Consider how messed up the churches were to whom Paul wrote his epistles. Yet he considered them to be truly Christian and continued to minister to them.
If you'd like to PM me about any of this, feel free.
Cheers.
just wanted to say hey.
i’m in australia.
i’ve just woken up… i’m disfellowshipped and finding it hard without family although i do have one sister who isn’t interested in the truth, so that’s good… at least i can talk to her.
Welcome!
One piece of advice.
Make every effort to stop referring to the WT religion as "the truth." That lingo is part of their indoctrination process. They want you to believe that if you don't agree with them 100%, you're an opposer of the truth.
Someone can be very interested in the truth and very devoted to seeking the truth (the real truth) without having any interest at all in "the truth" (what the WT calls the truth).
In fact, I have an XJW friend who shocks other XJWs by asking, "So, how long were you in the... lie?" Of course, the final word of the question is the exact opposite of what they expect.
It kind of smacks them upside the head and reminds they of how programmed they were as JWs.