Posts by clarity

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Will JW.ORG actually harm the WT Society Long Term ?

by flipper in

jw
friends

my son and i were discussing this yesterday over coffee.

since the wt society in previous years virtually demonized going on the internet at all for jw's - now wt leaders are doing a complete turn around or about face probably so as to " compete " or keep up with all the anti-jw websites that are out there to give the wt society point of view.. however- it very well may backfire on them as once people start doing google searches looking for jw.org it will bring up all the other websites dealing with any jw issues and in the privacy of their own homes out of curiosity i'm sure lots of jw's are going to want to check out some of these sites to see what all the " apostate " hoopla is all about.

i wonder how many jw's will do this and will it have an effect in opening more minds to other views ?

clarity

Flipper.... hi,

Ahhh a good morning to all.....at the very

least I smell a new song book to make everything

all fit together once again...... how the heck are

they going to sing "WE'RE Jehova sss...wit..nes..sess"

when that gets dropped! Have to start thinkin up

how to rhyme ....JW.ORG with something?????hmmm

hahah

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Will it harm them ....if it does, the R&F will be oblivious!

As long as they have their social club with the instant "friends"

that is all that matters!

Many of the older generation will stay even if they see thru it,

after all at their age .....what else is there???? (I say this with

a bit of tongue in cheek!) :-)

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There will be a stronger undercurrent of wide awake

exjw's who will advocate & expose watchtower for the

damaging cult that it is .... and take measures for change!

clarity

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NEW 'Bible Teach' book... to be released at Annual Meeting?

by Calebs Airplane in

not sure if this has been mentioned on this board yet, but i just heard from a fairly reliable source that the annual meeting will discuss, among other things, major changes in the 'bible teach' book.

has anyone else heard this??.

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clarity

Congregations should continue to request What Does the Bible Really Teach? and “Keep Yourselves in God’s Love” to maintain a modest supply at the Kingdom Hall. This will assist in reducing existing stock at the branch office before the revisions are released

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Oh.....and by the way.....just keep on using this

wrong crap ('cause it is all crap anyway) because

we need to get as much money out of this old stuff

as we can! ... Yes........even if it's wrong!!!!

clarity

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Could they become a real cult?

by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

i study religions.

i never call new world religons cults.

until they become like heavsn gate etc.. the jw religions is setting itself u for this.

clarity

Thanks for posting this very interesting thread HTBWC!

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Wow, fertile minds at work here .... some new ideas

for me. Funny how we can have an underlying 'feeling'

but just cannot put words to it!

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Ocean1111 ... amazed at how you lay out the wt senario,

thank you. Your take on this "hidden in plain sight" deal,

just makes those little doors in the mind spring wide open!

Hope you don't mind me sharing these ideas, they explain a lot!

clarity

38

Reverse Shunning

by exwhyzee in

someting happened yesterday that i thought might be noteworty enough to relate to you here.. mrs. eyz and i were invited to my new boss's home for his annual end of summer party.

it's a pretty big deal....his is a name known locally (i'll call him j.r.) a really nice interesting guy who's held a number of high level and politically connected jobs.

there was to be music, dancing, wine and reprotedly lots of well dressed, well educated, well to do and influential people (oh yes...and us) in attendance.. anyway we thought we'd make an occasion out of it and got ourselves spiffed up which involved new outfits and extra mirror time before we left home.

clarity

Hey eyz....just saw your terrific post!!! A fine example

of taking care of business. ha ha luv it!

It does take a few years out, to clear your mind of 'them'

calling all the shots. Congratulations for taking control of

how you wanted that conversation to go... it feels so edifying.

clarity

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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...

by 2pink in

jw
friends

my husband and i were both born ins.

i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.

we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.

clarity

Pink, if you had no dependent children, that

would be one thing.......but you do, 4 of them!

Whatever the situation is with your hubby, sit

down and think.

Do you really imagine that what you have right

now....all the care, work, worry, & expense will

somehow be eased if you are out there alone,

with no money coming in! No father at all in the

house! No one else there for the kids...just you?

Think...what are you setting these kids up for?

Do you think for a moment that some other "nicer"

man will jump at the chance to shoulder all these

responsibilities?

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Plse get some outside counselling & help before

you go any further.

clarity

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Failure

by backformore in

jw
friends

so tonight just sucks ad i just want to vent to people who don't know me irl.. my wife and i have two kids.

i was still in when we got together but my wife never was.

when we actually got married i moved out of my parents place and never went back to a kingdom hall again.

clarity

Backformore...hello, ...while I understand babyfever,

I think you may be in denial of your reality.

Facts are hard to accept sometimes, especially when

it points to a loss of youth. It might not be a case of

losing out on another child!

A couple of facts that you have given us, is that

you do have two lovely healthy children already and.....

"I have been diagnosed with type 1 diabetes, celiac disease, and renal failure. My wife had breast cancer at 30"

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Your decision of course........... only my 2 cents!

clarity

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My Wife Now Questions God

by Jon Preston in

well my wife and i have been through a roller coaster of life since i convinced her the dibs werent the truth.

the hardest tests have been lived but we are closer than ever now.

now recently shes read "the shack" nd watched some movies about god and just cant seem to inderstand why god would allow all of this suffering just to prove to satan that hes "the man" (or woman).

clarity

This is a hot issue with many people.....wt says

god has to prove (by our worship etc) that he is

the true/supreme god...... or else what would all

those angels think of him, if he just obliterated A&E

or that bright angel in the garden.

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Well, ...after setting man kind right back to just 8

people, by flooding the earth & killing everything he

could........he has sat back & watched generations

(millions & millions) of people & babies & animals

suffer in agony, beaten, raped, sickend with

horrendous diseases, blinded, deaf & speachless

a n d t h a t is O K????????????????? with him!!

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What......pray tell, do all the myriads of angels

think of him now! After they look at the legacy

of death he has instituted on mankind????

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Or ....does god not exist, and it is up to each and

everyone of us to make this earth a wonderful

place to live.

clarity

38

My jw mum threw us out.

by abbasgreta in

my brother (non-jw but became a christian 6 months ago) and i nursed my aged jw mother back to a semblance of strength over the last three weeks.. the elders were happy to pass the buck on to me, her da'd daughter and my bro.. he has been living with her for 3 months and has transformed her ill-kept home and garden and literally nursed her like a professional alone.

before i stepped in to help him care for her.

he repeatedly told her how much he loved her and was so caring, it brought a lump to my throat.. he has been going to church sunday mornings, telling her he 'was meeting up with friends' so as not to cause friction.but she knew where he had been.. we noticed a shift in her demeanour towards us (she knows i'm a church-goer) over the week-end and she started to.

clarity

Dear Abba & your Dear Brother, so sorry this

has happened to you both. Take very good care

of one another.

This farcical religion has ruined the wholesome

atmosphere that should exist in families.

They have stolen loyalties that would have

naturally existed between family & friends...

and sucked it all up ......for themselves!

Watchtower leaders should all be arrested

and thrown in jail ... for keeps this time!

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My heart goes out to you both and to all

those suffering under this rule of buffoons

and all their made-up "laws"!

clarity

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Were you or someone you know sexually molested by a Jehovah's Witness ?

by flipper in

due to the fact there are about 27,000 members of this religion that are known pedophiles, and the information about it is kept in a secret database file, i wonder how many lurking jw's as well as others are aware of the severity of this problem?

remember, it's 27,000 pedophiles that they know about.

what about the thousands that don't get caught?

clarity

No I didn't flipper. The only reason I even

found out about this was a "momentary

spilling of the beans" Actually told all their

names ...but darn they were reeled off so fast

my brain couldn't grasp them! I did try to find

out info on the one who went to jail ..newspaper,

google etc, but no luck. This went back about

15 yrs ago I'm guessing!

The one telling this was reassured tho (ya rite!)

that because he was sent to jail, that was that..

and every one was good again after that!!!!!!!!!

Lesson learned ......huh? So deluded!

clarity

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Two more quitters!

by apocalypse in

in my city, there's been a husband and wife who quit this week.

hurray!.

the first thing that came to mind when i heard it was 'they didn't need my help'.. you see, many in my city who quit in the past were previously on my mailing list.

clarity

Many are sending these out, they

are sent anonomously because they

are re sent from another town or city.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPMECoSyyc&list=UUG2tODD7ys5CYEu6qYvj1SA

clarity