Thought I would post the mentioned site that was closed down,
Kim & Mike opened a new one and are working so hard to get
everything running again. Nothing will stop these great people!
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Why has the WT not tried to shut down this board?
by hamsterbait inwe all know that beth hell monitors this site.. they have repeatedly had sites shut down for quoting large portions of their litterature.
not this one.. do you think this board enables them to keep a finger on the pulse of what is going on in ex and aposto land?
hb.
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The Internet Proves JWs Are a Joke Now
by jw07 ini'm a born in, born in the 1980s and old enough to remember studying beefy (albeit full of crap) material like the the evolution book and revelation book (which we studied over and over and over and over).
books and brochures were wordy and chock full of legalistic language explaining away teachings and policies, some explanations slightly above the iq of the average person.. watchtower studies were longer (30 paragraphs sometimes), talks were longer and thus meetings were longer, pioneering was harder (70 hours if i remember correctly), assemblies and conventions were longer, and there were intricate food provisions to feed thousands of people (for a cost of course).. the average jw could recite watchtower propaganda for hours to indoctrinate others or defend their faith.
jws were interested in having meaty discussions at the door and challenging even pastors on doctrinal points.. i know this has been said many times, but the organization has gone through a massive dumbing down.. i can't figure out if it's due to the oblivious nature of the current governing body, a premeditated attempt by them at dumbing down the organization, or just the effects of life becoming easier around the globe due to reliance on technology.. i can only speak on my era, and i know that from the early 90s until around 2004 the organization was allot more doctrine savy.. over the past decade or so i'd say the collective iq of the followers has moved from 105 to 85.. indoctrination and blind belief has allot to do with being prone to be emotionally manipulated, but thinking ability has a say in that too.. social media is a decent gauge of how and what the average person within a certain demographic is thinking, and doing a simple hashtag search on twitter, instagram, or facebook reveals allot about how the current generation of young jws (15-28 or thereabout) are thinking.. many have become self obsessed, internet obsessed, hubris filled and passive, i can see an even bigger decline in growth over the next 5 years.. take a look:.
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clarity
One of the big problems is that wt demands
that they not think critically & says n ot to research,
they will do it for them. So being a bit lazy, they
take the line of least resistance ...& just say OK!!!!
clarity
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feeling like a true apostate today
by truthwillsetyoufree init was back in 2011 when i was convinced that jws dont have the truth.
i rejected so many teachings and was open about that to members of my family.
it took me another year to pluck up the courage to attend other churches.
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Welcome truthwillsetyoufree...and thanks for
posting your antiwitnessing. A big step at first
is'nt it? Good for you!
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Glad you woke up and are free to research & ask
questions & doubt. Can you imagine any normal
person even contemplating for 1 minute that thinking,
researching or doubting/judging is FORBIDDEN!!!hahah
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Anyway looking forward to to hearing from you again.
clarity
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Looking for details about the Org , property ownership and not a religion in Mexico
by Crazyguy ini was unable to find any details on this on jwfacts, anyone have details on the wt not being a religion so they could instead own property?.
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This organization not only tells you of the
horrible crimes that could happen......but
the also cause & set-up the horrible treatment
for real! Don't believe me? Look at what they
say..........>
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“Now that you have denied your God Jehovah, what god will you serve?”
*** w70 4/1 p. 219 par. 16 When Building Disciples, Motivate the Heart *** (Malawi) When a Christian witness of Jehovah of Ntifinyire Village was beaten for refusing to purchase a political card, Banda’s youths took a knife and made cuts encircling his arms and then his legs and inflicted many cuts on his head. Other Witnesses had six-inch nails driven into their feet, bicycle spokes were forced through their legs and then these Christians were told to run. Still others were tortured with a burning stick placed against their arms, legs, head and entire body. Still these Witnesses refused to compromise their religious beliefs or deny their God Jehovah under such barbaric torture. You may be called upon someday to prove your faith. How will your faith stand up?
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Do you see what they did? ...Telling is not enough,
they go to any length to SHOW YOU...to put the
a huge fear into you, so that you bootlick, and
grovel and cower before them, depending on THEM
to save you!
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They think that all of the torture, ruined lives & deaths,
as just .......collateral damage! Nothing else.
Listen obey & be blessed.......huh !!!!!!!
clarity
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Do Witnesses still go door-to-door??
by MsShockJock injust wondering if they still go door-to-door?
i never see groups of people walking around the neighborhoods all dressed up or out in fastfood restaurants on saturday mornings or groups of people driving around in cars.
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My feeling is that, it is pretty rare to see them walking
around the neighborhood knocking on doors!
They stand on the sidewalks now, with a stand or
sort of like a rolling book shelf now. They talk mostly
to each other......as they stand back from this contraption!
Oh ...and you have be "special" to do this hard work, and
be picked and sent out. Mostly "pioneers" are the special
ones!
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Get well Grace (Mouthy)
by label licker ina loud get well grace from all of us to you.
everyone, grace has been in and out of the hospital and i'm sure she would love to read your get wells.
we miss you grace:) wish i could post pictures.
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Accused Rapist, Angela Montgomery, a JW, goes to trial Sept. 2-5, 2014 in Tennessee
by AndersonsInfo infirst article to appear in the newspaper on sept. 5, 2012:.
former resident returns to 'boro to face accusations [murfreesboro, tennessee].
11:03 pm, sep 5, 2012 | https://www.tennessean.com/article/d4/20120906/news/309060021/mother-charged-2-rapes.
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Omg .....imagine being her "householder" or in a
car group with this piece of work!
Those dead eyes say it all!
As with bros who rape their children, how in heck
do those poor children make any sense of the evil
at home & the hypocrit at the hall!!!!!!
sheesh
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I now have a law degree!
by digderidoo inhi guys, i don't really post on here much anymore, having been on here since 2001. this site helped me out in the early days and has been a great support system for all of my past jw issues.
like many others i was discouraged from an education so that i could window clean and pioneer in my youth during the 80's.
having spent many years post my jw exit in alcoholism and periods of drugs, i decided to clean myself up 7 years ago by attending aa, i was still a window cleaner ... at the time i wrote extensively on here about my issues.
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Hello there Diggy .......you are just amazing,
congrats on getting clean & sober ...that takes
a lot of dedication to WHO you really are!
Your idea to get a higher education is brilliant!
So encouraging!
clarity
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That's it......
by whathehadas inthis might be my last post.
i've had quite a few things on my mind over the past few years, mainly my belief in god.
i've tried to move on from the jw past but that's really being foolish.
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What.......
One of the problems is that when we make a new
friend, we relax and just want to let out all our pain
& frustration of our past. Mistake #1.......
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All this pain & frustration needs to be told to someone
who understands what the hell you are talking about!!!
.........and that is definately NOT a new freind!
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Do not 'paint yourself with that jehova witless brush'!!
Normal people are leary of religious nuts! We were RN's.
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Relax and enjoy being with the "worldlies" and do not feel
obligated to 'spill the beans' all over yourself. Stay quietly
listening to the conversation & just ask a lot of questions,
people love to tell you all about their lives etc.... Got it?
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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"
by opusdei1972 inin numbers 31 we read the following:.
jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.
afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.
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clarity
Isn't that the most disgusting evil command!
As an active jw, I had never read all those
horrible words!
I wonder why we never discussed this at the mtgs???
Yeah right. I still have 2 bibles at home....but not for
much longer!