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  So how do I do this & get it right?

  by Why Georgia in

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  tomorrow i will be mailing my special do not call, come by, or mail our family anything letter to new york.

  i was told i should also send the same letter to all the local congregations we were once affiliated with.. i did this when we lived at our old address and the letter to the local kh came back returned for having no mailbox.. so how am i supposed to get the letters to them?.

  any idea's?.

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  Joyzabel

  why bother? You verbally told them to leave you guys alone. Don't jump through their hoops, it only gives them power.

  Do nothing, imho.
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  There is no graceful way to back out ...

  by ljwtiamb in

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  i find it interesting that the chickens have come home to roost for wts.. just as they have allowed no dignified way to exit the org, without disgrace, there seems to be no way for them to gracefully apologize for past (errors???).

  just think of the recent mass exodus of faithful that has come about with each major doctrine change.

  so many have been ruined by devoting their lives to the gb, that even if there was a sincere effort to correct things, i believe that the vast majority of the current membership would just revolt.. it's just a matter of time before the entire house of cards comes tumbling down.. so, whaddya think?.

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  The Roman Catholic house of cards have been going on for over 2000 years......so why not the WTBTS?
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  i have to hate them

  by joelbear in

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  hopefully i've given something to someone here over the years.

  i know i've taken plenty.. i had to come here, the only place where i can say what i have on my mind and know that people will understand.. i took an overdose of medication on monday.

  my long battle with anxiety and depression that is well chronicled on these pages got the best of me once again.

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  Joyzabel

  hey ((((joelbear)))) sorry life socked you in the gut again.

  It always seems to hit when we deal with our family. The hurt that keeps going on because of a publishing company is just terrible. And you can't just "get over it" because it is not that simple.

  Please keep doing what you are doing. You'll find your way.

  Hugs,

  Joy

  ps Merry, wonderful ditty, love it.
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  Need to give credit to this web site & to Vickie!

  by toladest in

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  i did not realize that in my post above about brothers reuniting after 26 years that i failed to mention that it is because of this site that it all happened.. i am scott's wife and i met darrin's common law wife on this board.

  neither of us even knew each other existed.

  i was talking about dan f and she was here trying to learn more about jw's because of what her man went through as a child.

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  5 day early Happy Birthday (((((Grace))))))

  enjoy your day!
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  Where is FLAT STANLEY???

  by Princess in

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  flat stanley seems to be lost.

  rhys hasn't recieved a postcard from him in weeks now...last one was from joy in florida.

  i know we had a poster in alaska who sent a card, but so far, it hasn't arrived.. last i heard, he was en route to california.

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  pssst, Big Dog.....
  

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/78917/1.ashx

  I had sent him to Idaho, I think. I hope he made it there.

  When he's done traveling, please post all the places he's been to this year. He was around the world, I think.

  Joy
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  Are JWs a cult? Well, just ask them ...

  by ljwtiamb in

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  w94 2/15 pp.

  5-7 are jehovah?s witnesses a cult?

  are jehovah?s witnesses a cult?.

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/42473/1.ashx
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  2000th Post, and All I Want Is A Smile...

  by FMZ in

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  the world can always use another smile.... when you're smilin'.

  when you're smilin'....keep on smilin' .

  cause when you're smilin'....keep on smilin' .

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  Dead Relative Due To Blood Policy?

  by AlanF in

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  i'd like to hear comments from anyone who had a relative die because of the watchtower society's misguided policy on blood transfusions.. alanf

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  Joyzabel

  Thank you ((Old Soul)) for your consoling remarks.

  It was one of the hardest things to go through, keeping the bastard elders out of ICU away from my dad. I even tried to get HemaPure for my dad. As you know I'm in the medical field and as a practioner I deal directly with other practioners as needed. To have to go through the hoops of the JWs to call the local elders and get a HLC member to call me to answer my questions on how to get HemaPure was very frustrating. Most janitors JW's don't realize when there is an emergency, you deal with it immediately, not in an hour or so. The condesending remarks from the "elders" to little ole me, a woman, showed what a good-old-boy-sick-cult the JWs are.

  IMHO the blood policy is deplorable and too many innocent people die for a man made doctrine.

  edited to add: the poor JW rank & file are keep so ignorant by the blood policy not being understood by them. If the R & F JW doesn't understand, well its because the Governing Body are such wonderful, intelligent people. It makes me sick to think that intelligent regular humans don't question why the policy doesn't make sense and leaves it up to some old men to decide their fate for them.
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  Dead Relative Due To Blood Policy?

  by AlanF in

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  i'd like to hear comments from anyone who had a relative die because of the watchtower society's misguided policy on blood transfusions.. alanf

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  *sigh*

  I lost my dad in January 2003 due to the blood policy. His aorta began to tear, they set him up for surgery, but the no blood policy made the surgeon apprehensive. While inserting the foley catherater they punctured the prostate, causing blood loss into the bladder. Due to the no blood policy they postponed the aorta surgery to build his blood back up and find out what exactly was going on with the catherater. 2 days later he ruptured his aorta and died instantly. Had he agreed to blood they would have done the surgery the first night he entered the hospital the doctors would have not waited "to build up his blood" but would have corrected the defect that was occuring.

  Then in September 2003 my father-in-law bleed to death in a hospital after his hemmroids ruptured. Yep, you bet the JW family was hovering around making sure he didn't get any blood. They didn't even know he could get blood products like albumin to help.

  Joy
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  Conceited Witnesses

  by TheListener in

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  2. friends

  lately several of the threads on the board have dealt with some really deep spiritual and biblical topics.

  i love reading everyone's opinions and seeing links to even more detailed opinions.

  it has made me think though.. when i was a strong dub i thought i knew everything about the bible and couldn't wait to 'get into it' with a catholic or protestant priest.

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  Joyzabel

  It's been this website that has shown me how conceited I was. I was completely fooled.

  In my humble opinion, it is only after realizing this and humbling ourselves that JWs become xJWs. Ever notice when information is presented to JWs their pride excuses whatever the information is?

  So, I figure, unless someone is willing to truely be humble and say "what a fool I was to be such a true believer" one will never leave a cult. Pride, arrogance, etc keeps people from really looking at the truth.