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  Favorite Scripture? Here's mine...

  by confusedjw in

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  do you have a favorite scripture?

  mine is ecc 7:3 "better is vexation than laughter, for by the crossness of the face the heart becomes better.

  ever realize you are a certain way and it just makes your face cringe?

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  Ephesians 6:4

  And you, fathers, do not be irritating your children.

  Lisa
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  Knoxville Tenn/Dayton Ohio/Eastern KY

  by Junction-Guy in

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  hi all, its been a while since ive posted to this board, due to technical difficulties with my webtv.

  im currently using a public terminal and can only post when i come to the mall.

  im looking to meet other ex-jw's in knoxville tenn area.

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  HiYa Neighbors....Dayton Ohio area here too.....

  Lisa
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  This site has been the most incredible help to me-UNTIL TODAY

  by ohiocowboy in

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  reading through some of the recent posts, ie; the topic of lazarus and the gay issue, i was flabbergasted at what i was reading.

  i can't believe-well maybe i can, that some people on this site are calling gay people "faggots", and telling that person that they are going to get "what sodom and gomorrah got".. this site has been a godsend to me, and have been telling my friends how nice it is to be in with a group of people who can relate to my life, my feelings, my insecurities, and my fears relating to the org.

  and not being a part of it anymore.

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  Ohiocowboy....I'm thinkin that you live in Ohio?

  If so,....howdy neighbor....Where in Ohio are you?

  And welcome to the forum.

  Lisa
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  APRIL 20, 2004 DAILY TEXT

  by in a new york bethel minute in

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  i opened the daily text yesterday at dinner with my family, and at first glance i see the scripture quotation of april 20. short and to the point, i must admit.... "she just made us come.

  "- acts 16:15. as funny as that scripture is by itself, what's funnier is that there is so much more to verse 15. i dont know if someone did that on purpose, but it's just such a weird piece of scripture to put, without putting the first part of the scripture there, so that it actually makes some kind of sense and means something.

  i read the text at least twice a week and i have found that they do that frequently.

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  Medic writes

  There is a song in the Kingdom Melodies which has part of a line that reads "beats them off"... It's been a while and I forget which context they were using. I always loved to sing that part!!!!

  really tells you something when someone's first post is about sex...PERV..... Oh, and WELCOME to the board..... Lisa
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  Is there another religion...

  by kibizzle in

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  that any of you know of that teaches everlasting life on earth and emphasizes world unity (aka :won't go to war against another nation so they don't kill any of their own)?

  kib

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  Armstrongism

  Founder	Herbert W. Armstrong (1892-1986). Founded Worldwide Ch. of God (WCG) in 1934. WCG left his beliefs, but splinter groups still follow them.
  Writings	New groups, often former WCG members, who follwo Armstrong's traditional teaching produce: The Philadelphia Trumpet magazine, Malachi's Message, Key of David TV program and others.
  God	One infinite, eternal God. Traditional Armstrongism denies a Trinity, defining God as a "family of individuals." However, in 1995, WCG leaders officially accepted the Trinitarian concept of God and now accept biblical beliefs.
  Jesus	Jesus is God incarnate (in human form). Armstrong suggested that Jesus would return to earth in 1975. Groups following Armstrong's original teachings (Global, Philadelphia, and United Churches of God) say Jesus was not resurrected physically and that he is the only one who has been born again. WCG believes that Jesus was raised spiritually and physically.
  Holy Spirit	Armstrongism: Hoy Spirit is an impersonal force. WCG: Hoy Spirit is God, the third person of the Trinity.
  Salvation	Salvation is by grace (the unmerited favor of God). Whereas Armstrong followers must recognize the Old Testament sabbath days, feast days, and dietary prohibitions, such as no pork, or shellfish, WCG has abandoned these beliefs.
  Death	Armstrongism: Resurrected believers will live on the new earth. Unsaved will face judgement.
  Other Beliefs	Groups like the Philadelphia Church of God and Church of God International still hold Armstrong's views such as deity for mankind, no immortality of the soul, no literal hell, no medical treatment, and Anglo-Israelism. Since Armstrong's death, WCG, which was formerly very cultic, has undergone many changes toward more biblical views

  Also, check this out.

  Laymen's Home Missionary Movement - Leader: Raymond J. Jolly
  Similar to the Jehovah's Witnesses, they deny the physical resurrection of Jesus Christ. "John 4:24 - God is a Spirit. Luke 24:39 - A Spirit hath not flesh and bones ... In the first place, God directly tells us that Jesus is now a spirit being" (Epiphany Studies in the Scriptures). "Trinitarians have grossly mistranslated and miscapitalized this passage to read their trinitarianism into it, as they have done in other cases. The proper translation shows that Christ is not Jehovah ... He is Jehovah's appointed Savior for the world, not Jehovah Himself." (Epiphany Studies in the Scriptures- Series 1).

  Second Adventist Movement - Founder: William Miller
  Widespread trans-denominational movement of the 1830s made up of the followers of William Miller, who taught Jesus would return on October 22, 1844. Even after the Great Disappointment (the date's failure), a few of the remaining followers continued to believe. Some suggested revised chronologies and new dates eventually forming rival groups such as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Other remaining believers (Hiram Edson and Ellen G. White) suggested the 1844 date was accurate but a that a heavenly (thus invisible) event took place. These followers formed the Seventh Day Adventists which eventually spawned its own offshoots including the Worldwide Church of God and the Branch Davidians.

  The Way International - Leader: Victor Paul Wierwile
  A very close counterfeit of Christianity. They believe in God, the Bible, Jesus Christ, salvation, and eternal life, but not the Trinity. Jesus is NOT God, and the Holy Spirit is a synonym for God (Jesus Christ is Not God, Victor Paul Wierwille).
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  Memorial Experience

  by CaptainSchmideo in

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  at my congregation's memorial, i saw two things i have never seen before.. 1. since jesus said a prayer "over the bread and wine", the elders who gave the prayers just before passing the utensils took the microphone out of the podium, walked over to the table, and said the prayer "over the bread and wine.

  " never saw this before in over 30 years of attendance.. .

  2. one elder, probably the most knowledgable, been a witness since he was a kid in the fifties, was wearing a lapel pin on his jacket, very small, looked like a black button.

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  Interesting pin, maybe it is a security device, recording and filming questionable JWs (smile). 
  Blondie

  LOL....you're quick....I was going to say....maybe it was a micro-chip connected to a satalite...

  Lisa
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  Have You Ever Heard This Explanation Why 144,000 is a Literal Number?

  by Had Enough in

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  the speaker said tonight (yes i went to the memorial to appease my worried family .

  well he said its very simple....the scripture talks about the lamb and the 144,000. it doesn't say lambs as in more than one....no, it says lamb referring to the "literal number of one lamb".. so thats how we know that the 144,000 is a literal number and not symbolic like all the rest of revelation.. ok....now am i going bonkers...or has anyone else every heard that explanation before?

  i know i never have and that doesn't make any sense to me at all.. had enough

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  I asked the sister that comes over why was 144,000 taked as a literal number, her answer to me was because it was mentioned in Revelation's twice......

  Lisa
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  The memorial was tonight.... but I didn't go.

  by English Patient in

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  i decided to stay in, and sign up here instead.

  wise move?

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  Doesn't even start for another hour!

  Ebglishman.

  Ebglishman ....Ebglishman .... Ebglishman .... ummmm...have you started sippin the wine early... .. Lisa
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  what happens at the memorial??

  by farmer in

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  My mother bought an expensive blouse to wear to the Memorial tonight. She doesn't have a lot of money to spend so I don't understand why. The whole Memorial seems so bizarre to me. Everyone comes all dressed up to reject the Lord's Supper? It may be the truth of the Watchtower but my understanding is that it doesn't say that in the bible. Jesus said to those who believe do this in memory of me until I come back. John 6:51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world. John 6:54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

  The memorial was one of the rare times we got a new outfit each year..... Lisa
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  Which was scarier... the torture scenario or the Armageddon scenario?

  by Gopher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of us who grew up in the jw's, there were a couple of scary scenarios presented, one supposedly to happen before armageddon, and armageddon itself.. before armageddon, all jw's were going to be chased around by worldly nations because they would be the only religion left on earth, satan's system having destroyed "babylon the great" (all religions outside jw's, we were told).

  so as part of that, jw's would be persecuted worldwide for being religious and proclaiming the "kingdom".. now -- connect that with the actual persecution that happened to the jw's as documented in the annual "yearbook" and in the pages of the watchtower magazine.

  sometimes the details of what happened to jw's when in confinement were quite graphic and frightening.

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  Armegeddon, didn't frighten me, because unlike that poor little girl and her dolly in the "purple picture" I wasn't going to be swallowed up by some great chasm in the earth, as I was a good little dubbie.

  xjw_b12,

  How did you know you were a 'good little dubbie?

  I was constantly reminded how bad I was and that it was very unlikely that I would make it if I didn't change my ways....This started from the time I was old enough to understand probably 4 or 5. So, I never felt that I was good enough.....Did someone, your parents or elders, family ect...tell you that you were doing everything right?

  Lisa