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  Do you think JWs know what apostates really are?

  by KateWild in

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  my friend was slagging off one of my other friends saying they have been known to say apotate things.

  she does apostate things herself without realising it.

  she meant well because she fears the word apostate as i once did, but she openly says to me my jc was lacking in holy spirit.. she doesn't have a clue what apostacy really is she just wants me not to mix with ones who have been known said "apostate things".

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  JWs are given a very warped definition of an apostate.

  1 apostates know that the organisation is the truth but reject it anyway.

  2 Apostates are ful of pride and do not want to do the field service because of this proud spirit.

  3 apostates want to draw people away from Gods organisation to follow them.

  However by saying that you do not believe that the GB are gods representatives on Earth you can be Df'd for apostacy. So by critcising the credentials of the Gb or by choosing to follow an alternative faith or no faith at all you can be called an apostate. This makes a lie of point 1.

  If you do not believe what the Watchtower preaches why would you go on field service? It is not pride that keeps you from the door to door work but commion sense.

  apostates rarely set up their own religion and I can't think of many who are looking for followers only people who want to be able to live freely and make choices without fear of having loved ones used as hostages.

  The society is very good at building fear, when I was a witness I thought apostacy was extremely rare I had no idea that just by having a different point of view to that published by the society I was in danger of being considered an apostate. There is power in words and a great deal of control when people are demonised merely because they question an established point of view. People who leave have to be demonised otherwise others may learn that they have been duped.
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  New Circles of Friends Take Time

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jwn has been great for me.

  i think i have deprogrammed pretty quick so far compared to many with all their loved ones in.

  i am enjoying meeting up with posters off the board and fbing some too.

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  In the witness world making friends is easy we rarely have to make an effort, in fact witnesses know how to break friendships more easily than make them.

  It is possible to make new friends and be a good friend and negotiate the maze of social relationships successfully. It is a learning process for everyone. You situation is complicated and you have a very direct approach which can be open to misinterpretation however you learn from your mistakes and are not fearful of approaching others.

  As a single woman you need to keep yourself safe and learn strategies for this as out in the world not everyone has the same objectives you do.
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  I got my money back

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. jw
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  i posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.

  i wasn't sure what the response would be.

  yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.

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  Isn't it funny how they rationalise one but reject the other. It is a sad world they live in where generosity has to be scrutinised as to whether it is appropriate or not. I feel sorry for the children who did not get the gifts you so thoughtfully provided for them. Good for you that you tried.
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  What does 2014 mean to you

  by NewYork44M in

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  2. friends

  sometime in the early 1990s i made a commitment to myself that if the end did not come in 2014 i was going to walk away.

  then i started thinking - if i waited until 2014 i would be 57 years old with very few options.

  that is when i realized that i needed to make changes to get my life back.

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  2014 an even year a time to develop skills to move forward with my life.

  I am hoping for a good year for our family.

  I know that for the organisation the year has more significance as it is 100 years since 1914. It means there will be more smoke and mirrors to reinvent past pronouncements and hide the corpses of people who haven't made it to the 100 years. However the end will always be just around the corner.
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  The Pastor of my Old Church Tried to Re-Convert Me Yesterday

  by cofty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday evening my wife and i were invited to friends house for new year's eve.

  we met them when i was a christian and we have kept in touch.

  they had a few other friends there as well, including the new church pastor and his wife.

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  If someone approaches you in a social setting about your beliefs then they are taking a huge risk. It is also impolite to ambush you in this way however well motivated.

  You gave him the courtesy of an honest response and that is the best he could have hoped for.
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  Closed WT Branches list.

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the friends at extj forum provided this list of wt branches that have been closed so far, there is also a mention that two large ones are in the process of being dismantled, they are spain and argentina.

  posted for informational purposes and it seems to be accurate.. thanks for reading.

  1) alaska.

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  Wow I do so hope that global communications are still available after Armageddon or that the society has trained carrier pigeons otherwise what will all those congregations in the outlying ccountries do? After all there aren't many specialists in the organisation to get things up and running.

  This organisation is planning for economies of scale not for global recovery after an apocalypse. It is a business built on the gulible for the preservation of the greedy. I pity those putting their faith in it.
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  KateWild's NYE pics

  by KateWild in

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  just got ready.

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  Have a great evening and enjoy yourself. New Year is full of promise get it off to a good start.
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  HELP!

  by somebody in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i see no option to reply to topics.

  things have changed, or i'm having major senior moments yet again..

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  Try clearing the Cache and if all else fails log off log back on again.
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  New to JWN and excited!

  by sunny23 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have been visiting jwn for about a week now and it motivated me to join.

  i look forward to meeting everyone i can and learning from their experiences and wisdom as i search for more and more reasons not to get reinstated.

  here's most of my story:.

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  Welcome hope we can help if needed.
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  WHERE IS THE BEEF - Little Bitty Skinny Magazines

  by Bob_NC in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the magazines were left in my door today.

  skinny little things with a lot of pictures and bullet-type commentary.

  actual articles are almost non-existent.

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  When we left I did not complain when my husband trashed all the bound volumes. As soon as I realised how poor the writing was and how poorly researched I couldn't stand them taking up space in the house. It is a sad fact that they had no intellectual value even as basic reference works. God knows how the latest 16 page excuses for magazines would stand up to scrutiny and why would anyone want to keep them for long term research if all they are is bullet points.