I just saw new Watchtowers from 2009 and 2010 where the Governing Body is still ordering all JW's to STOP associating with any non-JW friends or schoolmates or co-workers, and they are still telling JW's that they should NOT go to College.
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"This Generation" New Light:" A Death Sentence For 40-50-Something JWs
by Room 215 inone of the mesages emanating from the "new light"rhetoric is that it might be prudent to prepare to die before armageddon.
better to forget about the assurances that "you will never grow old, much less die" in this old system; maybe it's time to enact a macabre plan b and latch onto a cemetary plot and prepaid funerals....
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The official "how did they react to the new light" thread
by PYRAMIDSCHEME infor those that went to meeting what was the general response to this "new understanding" of "this generation"?
at my hall i don't think anyone really got it or cared.
swallowed hook, line and sinker.
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We had the same idea at the same time! lol.
Let's link up our two threads here:
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Did You Attend the "Big" Generation Watchtower Study Today?
by UnDisfellowshipped indid you attend the meeting today?
this is a thread for anyone who attended the "big" generation watchtower study today to post their experiences/stories.. let's hear some wholesome, upbuilding encouragement from our brothers and sisters out there today!.
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Pyramid had the same idea for a thread at the same time I did! lol.
Let's link up our two threads here:
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Did You Attend the "Big" Generation Watchtower Study Today?
by UnDisfellowshipped indid you attend the meeting today?
this is a thread for anyone who attended the "big" generation watchtower study today to post their experiences/stories.. let's hear some wholesome, upbuilding encouragement from our brothers and sisters out there today!.
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Did you attend the Meeting today? This is a Thread for anyone who attended the "big" Generation Watchtower Study today to post their experiences/stories.
Let's hear some wholesome, upbuilding encouragement from our brothers and sisters out there today!
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Explaining the NEW Generation!
by UnDisfellowshipped inexplaining the new generation teaching:.
this is for anyone who may not know yet what exactly the "new light" is on the "generation of 1914":.
god has now revealed to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses the true identity of "this generation that will not pass away until all these things occur" spoken of by jesus at matthew 24:34!.
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The important thing to remember (from my experience) is whenever you talk to a JW, always, ALWAYS make them feel like they are the teachers, and you are the students. ASK THEM TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
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Generation Links
by UnDisfellowshipped in* a generation comes and a generation goes: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/193983/1/a-generation-comes-and-a-generation-goes.
* new light: generation: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/186841/1/new-light-generation.
* generation change: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182945/1/generation-change.
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Links to ALL of the MAJOR Threads about the New "Overlapping" Generation of 1914:
Today is the "BIG DAY" when all JW's will be "Studying" the "Clarified Understanding" of the 1914 Generation, so for everyone's reading pleasure, below is a list of all of the other major "New Generation" Threads that I am aware of.
(Also, anyone who went to the Watchtower Study meeting today at the Kingdom Hall, please post your stories!)
This is what the actual new Watchtower Study Article says about the New Generation. This will be "studied" at the Sunday Meeting today worldwide:
The Watchtower (Study Edition), April 15th, 2010 Issue, Pages 27-29:
"This magazine has long been used by “the faithful and discreet slave” as the primary channel for dispensing increased light. ... What does this explanation mean to us? Although we cannot measure the exact length of “this generation,” we do well to keep in mind several things about the word “generation”: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex. 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “this generation”? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfillment of the various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near. By maintaining your sense of urgency and keeping on the watch, you show that you are keeping up with advancing light and following the leadings of holy spirit.—Mark 13:37."* NEW GENERATION DEFINED: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/187399/1/NEW-GENERATION-DEFINED-April-15-2010-Watchtower
* A Generation Comes and a Generation Goes: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/193983/1/A-Generation-Comes-and-a-Generation-Goes
* "Generation" talk from 2010 DC from Tucson, Arizona:http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/194017/1/Generation-talk-from-2010-DC-from-Tucson-Arizona* I Just Got Back From the Kingdom Hall: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/194667/1/I-just-got-back-from-the-KH
* Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the Generation Watchtower Study: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/194657/1/Blondies-Comments-You-Will-Not-Hear-at-the-06-13-10-WT-Study-HOLY-SPIRIT
* FREE MINDS Web Page on The Overlapping Generation: http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/chronology/this-generation-teaching-changes-for-6th-time-in-april-15-2010-watchtower.html
* New understanding of the Generation??: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183607/1/New-understanding-of-the-Generation
* CO visit reviews new "Generation" change today: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193617/1/CO-visit-reviews-new-Generation-change-today
* New Generation -- NO Thinking Allowed!: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/194032/1/New-Generation-NO-Thinking-Allowed
* The Reason Why the Society Changed the Meaning of "Generation"...again: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193717/2/The-Reason-Why-the-Society-Changed-the-Meaning-of-Generation-again
* New light: Generation: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/186841/1/New-light-Generation
* New generation definition....has the Society "jumped the shark"?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/187644/1/New-generation-definition-has-the-Society-jumped-the-shark
* Timeline of Watchtower Quotes on the Generation of 1914: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/37040/1/GENERATION-OF-1914-TIMELINE-OF-QUOTES
* Will The Governing Body Enforce the New Generation Understanding and Muzzle Open Criticism Among the Rank and File?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193949/1/Will-The-Governing-Body-Enforce-the-New-Generation-Understanding-and-Muzzle-Open-Criticism-Among-the-Rank-and-File
* Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it...": http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193474/1/Generation-Even-when-you-dont-understand-feel-uncomfortable-with-it
* CO visit provides preview of April generation change!: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191033/1/CO-visit-provides-preview-of-April-generation-change
* Generation teaching. What is it about witnesses that they don't see this for what it is?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193954/1/Generation-teaching-What-is-it-about-witnesses-that-they-dont-see-this-for-what-it-is
* What's the new light on Generations?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/194497/1/Whats-the-new-light-on-Generations
* "This Generation" New Light:" A Death Sentence For 40-50-Something JWs: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/current/193926/1/This-Generation-New-Light-A-Death-Sentence-For-40-50-Something-JWs
* Generation Change: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182945/1/Generation-Change -
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-13-10 WT Study (HOLY SPIRIT)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 06-13-10 wt study (april 15, 2010, pages 7-11 (purpose).
as we have seen, jehovah used his spirit in the past to protect individuals as well as the nation of israel as a whole.
why doesnt god protect individuals today?.
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Thank you so much Blondie for posting this and for all you do!
For everyone's reading pleasure, below is a list of all of the other major "New Generation" Threads that I am aware of:
* NEW GENERATION DEFINED: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/187399/1/NEW-GENERATION-DEFINED-April-15-2010-Watchtower
* A Generation Comes and a Generation Goes: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/193983/1/A-Generation-Comes-and-a-Generation-Goes
* "Generation" talk from 2010 DC from Tucson, Arizona: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/bible/194017/1/Generation-talk-from-2010-DC-from-Tucson-Arizona
* FREE MINDS Web Page on The Overlapping Generation: http://www.freeminds.org/doctrine/chronology/this-generation-teaching-changes-for-6th-time-in-april-15-2010-watchtower.html
* New understanding of the Generation??: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183607/1/New-understanding-of-the-Generation
* CO visit reviews new "Generation" change today: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193617/1/CO-visit-reviews-new-Generation-change-today
* New Generation -- NO Thinking Allowed!: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/194032/1/New-Generation-NO-Thinking-Allowed
* The Reason Why the Society Changed the Meaning of "Generation"...again: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193717/2/The-Reason-Why-the-Society-Changed-the-Meaning-of-Generation-again
* New light: Generation: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/186841/1/New-light-Generation
* New generation definition....has the Society "jumped the shark"?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/187644/1/New-generation-definition-has-the-Society-jumped-the-shark
* Timeline of Watchtower Quotes on the Generation of 1914: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/37040/1/GENERATION-OF-1914-TIMELINE-OF-QUOTES
* Will The Governing Body Enforce the New Generation Understanding and Muzzle Open Criticism Among the Rank and File?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193949/1/Will-The-Governing-Body-Enforce-the-New-Generation-Understanding-and-Muzzle-Open-Criticism-Among-the-Rank-and-File
* Generation & "Even when you don't understand/feel uncomfortable with it...": http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193474/1/Generation-Even-when-you-dont-understand-feel-uncomfortable-with-it
* CO visit provides preview of April generation change!: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191033/1/CO-visit-provides-preview-of-April-generation-change
* Generation teaching. What is it about witnesses that they don't see this for what it is?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/193954/1/Generation-teaching-What-is-it-about-witnesses-that-they-dont-see-this-for-what-it-is
* What's the new light on Generations?: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/194497/1/Whats-the-new-light-on-Generations
* "This Generation" New Light:" A Death Sentence For 40-50-Something JWs: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/current/193926/1/This-Generation-New-Light-A-Death-Sentence-For-40-50-Something-JWs
* Generation Change: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/182945/1/Generation-Change -
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GENERATION OF 1914 - TIMELINE OF QUOTES
by UnDisfellowshipped inthe watchtower november 1st 1950 issue, page 419:.
the watchtower april 15th 1961 issue, page 236:.
awake!
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This is what the actual new Watchtower Study Article says about the New Generation. This will be "studied" at the Sunday Meeting today worldwide:
The Watchtower (Study Edition), April 15th, 2010 Issue, Pages 27-29:
"This magazine has long been used by “the faithful and discreet slave” as the primary channel for dispensing increased light. ... What does this explanation mean to us? Although we cannot measure the exact length of “this generation,” we do well to keep in mind several things about the word “generation”: It usually refers to people of varying ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period; it is not excessively long; and it has an end. (Ex. 1:6) How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “this generation”? He evidently meant that the lives of the anointed who were on hand when the sign began to become evident in 1914 would overlap with the lives of other anointed ones who would see the start of the great tribulation. That generation had a beginning, and it surely will have an end. The fulfillment of the various features of the sign clearly indicate that the tribulation must be near. By maintaining your sense of urgency and keeping on the watch, you show that you are keeping up with advancing light and following the leadings of holy spirit.—Mark 13:37." -
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Explaining the NEW Generation!
by UnDisfellowshipped inexplaining the new generation teaching:.
this is for anyone who may not know yet what exactly the "new light" is on the "generation of 1914":.
god has now revealed to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses the true identity of "this generation that will not pass away until all these things occur" spoken of by jesus at matthew 24:34!.
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Sherilynn,
That is a fantastic question to ask any and all JW's!
We should all ask them whether the 2nd Group of Anointed had to be Anointed before the 1st Group died off, or does the 2nd Group just have to have their lives overlap (even before they become Anointed)?
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Explaining the NEW Generation!
by UnDisfellowshipped inexplaining the new generation teaching:.
this is for anyone who may not know yet what exactly the "new light" is on the "generation of 1914":.
god has now revealed to the governing body of jehovah's witnesses the true identity of "this generation that will not pass away until all these things occur" spoken of by jesus at matthew 24:34!.
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The Watchtower, September 1st, 1952, Pages 542-543:
Questions from Readers
• Your publications point out that the battle of Armageddon will come in this generation, and that this generation began A.D. 1914. Scripturally, how long is a generation?—G. P., Liberia.
Webster’s unabridged dictionary gives, in part, this definition of generation: “The average lifetime of man, or the ordinary period of time at which one rank follows another, or father is succeeded by child; an age. A generation is usually taken to be about 33 years.” But the Bible is not so specific. It gives no number of years for a generation. And in Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30 and Luke 21:32, the texts mentioning the generation the question refers to, we are not to take generation as meaning the average time for one generation to be succeeded by the next, as Webster’s does in its 33-year approximation; but rather more like Webster’s first-quoted definition, “the average lifetime of man.” Three or even four generations may be living at the same time, their lives overlapping. (Ps. 78:4; 145:4) Before the Noachian flood the life span was hundreds of years. Down through the centuries since, it has varied, and even now is different in different countries. The Bible does speak of a man’s days as being threescore and ten or fourscore years; but it assigns no specific number of years to a generation.—Ps. 90:10.
Even if it did, we could not calculate from such a figure the date of Armageddon, for the texts here under discussion do not say God’s battle comes right at the end of this generation, but before its end. To try to say how many years before its end would be speculative. The texts merely set a limit that is sufficiently definite for all present practical purposes. Some persons living A.D. 1914 when the series of foretold events began will also be living when the series ends with Armageddon. All the events will come within the span of a generation. There are hundreds of millions of persons living now that were living in 1914, and many millions of these persons could yet live a score or more years. Just when the lives of the majority of them will be cut short by Armageddon we cannot say.
__________________________________________________Compare that to the brand-new light that is being "studied" today around the world by the Jehovah's Witnesses!