this is my first post.
i just had to get that statement off of my chest!
my father is one cold hearted judge mental, hypocritical, piece of s**t. i hate this religion and what it has done to my family!
Welcome, you can tell from my name that I once thought I could never leave - I did and took my immediate family with me
The truth is, those still in are pretty much a$$4013€5 who think that shunning is some sort of mission from gawd even it it includes ignoring unbaptised minors . Anyway let's never forget that this is a cult we are talking about!!
jwvictims has done an excellent but disturbing article on how jw's feel about the child abuse problem.. http://jwvictims.org/2013/11/23/jehovahs-witnesses-caught-laughing-at-child-rape-accusers/.
i knew it could happen one day...yet i was so careful..... sitting at the sound cabinet, i had our awesome forum open on my tablet, and didn't see the microphone brother looking over at me...... he wandered over and asked me "whats that site?".
i quickly responded "oh, i googled to get to our jw.org site, and this must have popped up" while quickly closing it.... he didn't look too fussed, but my heart was beating..... he is pretty chilled out and certainly not an "uber-dub"...but this was a wake up call to be more careful...i am fading fast, but don't want anymore attention from the nazi-elders while doing so!.
be careful all!
Did the brother have this look when he saw your iPad?
i recently shared my views on how to witness to jehovah's witnesses to a local congregation.
the video link is also below:.
maybe this will help some reach out to loved ones that are still members.. .
yes, today is the forum's 15th birthday!.
i never thought for one moment that it would survive this long or have so many people post so many great subjects over the years.. it is still humbling when i get pm's or emails from people expressing how the site has helped them and of course thanks goes to all the posters who have shared their experiences and make helpful and supportive comments to others who are in the sometimes difficult process of learning the real truth about 'the truth'.. the site has gone through several different incarnations over the last 15 years running on different platforms, different databases and different hosts but we've been able to keep all the old topics.
the current site is still being developed and i'm hoping to push another major upgrade soon.. i also may have some other news to share soon about the future of the site so stay posted.. until then, here's the the next 15 years!
it is often said that our retinas are are an example of sub-optimal design.. a few years ago i was intrigued by a passing comment in one of nick lane's to the effect that this is not a good argument but he didn't go into much detail.. researchers at leipzig have revealed the role of glial cells in transmitting light from the surface of the retina to the cones, acting like fiber-optic cables.. erex ribak has built a model of the eye and demonstrated some fascinating details.... so, the question is - does this reflect good "design" or a retro-fitted repair like the hubble telescope's glasses?.
No need to be an insulting twit about it.
It was not my intention to insult, and I am far from a twit!
it is often said that our retinas are are an example of sub-optimal design.. a few years ago i was intrigued by a passing comment in one of nick lane's to the effect that this is not a good argument but he didn't go into much detail.. researchers at leipzig have revealed the role of glial cells in transmitting light from the surface of the retina to the cones, acting like fiber-optic cables.. erex ribak has built a model of the eye and demonstrated some fascinating details.... so, the question is - does this reflect good "design" or a retro-fitted repair like the hubble telescope's glasses?.
Cantleave, your comments seem to imply that since living organisms have "apparent design flaws" they are not designed. You then site the example of "the blood vessels positioned in front of the retina," stating that, "even a small hemorrhage can result in loss of sight." If by this you mean to imply that the structure of the eye could not be designed, then I must point out that your logic fails.
There is no failure in my logic at all. Design by natural selection is a valid term, I was not referring to intelligent design. It might help if you made familiarized yourself with the terminology of the biological sciences.
it is often said that our retinas are are an example of sub-optimal design.. a few years ago i was intrigued by a passing comment in one of nick lane's to the effect that this is not a good argument but he didn't go into much detail.. researchers at leipzig have revealed the role of glial cells in transmitting light from the surface of the retina to the cones, acting like fiber-optic cables.. erex ribak has built a model of the eye and demonstrated some fascinating details.... so, the question is - does this reflect good "design" or a retro-fitted repair like the hubble telescope's glasses?.
Interesting.
There are however other apparent design flaws. For example the blood vessels are in front of the retina. Even in healthy eyes these impede the path of some of the light reaching the rods and cones, resulting in slightly diminished visual efficiency. Admittedly not a major issue.
The positioning of these capillaries in some medical conditions can cause significant problems. For example if you suffer from diabetes. It is common for long term diabetics to develop diabetic retinopathy. This occurs as a response to a lack of oxygen. The retina creates chemical signals that tell the blood vessels to proliferate in order to increase the blood supply to compensate for the lack of oxygen. Because the blood vessels are situated on top of the retina, the increased density of capillaries significantly reduces the clarity of vision to the point of extreme partial sightedness.
Another issue is that the blood vessels positioned in front of the retina means that even a small hemorrhage can result in loss of sight.
has anyone ever read this book ???
jehovah is mentioned at the very bottom supposedly he is a reptilian god (demon) that resides on jupiter ?
wth.
Yep the Queen, George Bush and David Bowie are all reptiles
when i was young we were taught to refer to other adult jws as aunt or uncle.. was this also the case in other countries and does it still happen?.
was it just a custom or has the literature ever commented on it?.
thanks.
