angel eye wrote:.
john 14 v 1 shows jesus and jehovah are not 1.. acts 2 v 4 and 17 clearly show the holy spirit isnt a person,its gods active force.. john 14 v 28 is total proof,otherwise jesus would clearly be insane saying such things .
toomany scriptures to prove it...but just a few for you to recall,i guess its hard when your reading false claims to remember the truth.. .
Oh, come now. You can come up with better insults than that.
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Care to debate the issues?
The mistake you are making is focusing on only one verse when there are many. You are wagging the dog by the tail, but even the Society encourages one to examine all of the evidence, right? And weigh it all?
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i remeber reading in a farmers almanac years ago something about butchering hogs according to moon phase.. and of course it does have effect upon tides and i would assume bodily fluids as well.. .
is there anything proven about lunar effects on blood loss during surgery?.
do you know of any experiences where this held true?.
http://www.equinoxastrology.com/LunarLore.htm
Check this out Cameo-d
angel eye wrote:.
john 14 v 1 shows jesus and jehovah are not 1.. acts 2 v 4 and 17 clearly show the holy spirit isnt a person,its gods active force.. john 14 v 28 is total proof,otherwise jesus would clearly be insane saying such things .
toomany scriptures to prove it...but just a few for you to recall,i guess its hard when your reading false claims to remember the truth.. .
(lillith wipes snot on Jonathan) 
( for being a total Loser!) 
OutLaw- you make me smile too.
i don't know if anyone else has posted about this, but at tonight's meeting it was announced there are two new leaflets one dealing with how to leave a legacy for the worldwide work and the other on how to make tax effective contributions?.
this maybe for the uk only but i thought it showed that they really are focussing on filling up the depleted coffers..
Ah ahhh..... this explains a lot for me.... I had noticed that a few of the 'leading' families of JW's in the cong where I live all drove nice cars, owned a few investment properties, businesses (accountants and tax consultants), and all seemed to be "living the life" of comfort and luxury-so to speak- so remaining a JW is not only good for business and keeping up appearences, but it's now $$$ profitable as well.
Personally I'd rather stay poor!
what publication did you study and how long was the study for??.
when i came in you were only allowed 6months, i didnt even get that lol...but was baptised after 5months.
it was so fast but i was ready for baptism.
Its called freewill, and Iam not so willing to give it away as some... there was no choice, you cant unlearn facts, I could not in good conscience preach something I knew to be a lie, once you know that 1+1=2 you cant go back to believeing that 1+1=5..... and to preach to others 'truths' that you know are 'false'??? thats gotta weigh heavy on your conscience... I am a lover of truth, and I studied till I found it!
what publication did you study and how long was the study for??.
when i came in you were only allowed 6months, i didnt even get that lol...but was baptised after 5months.
it was so fast but i was ready for baptism.
I did the new study very recently (I started late 07 and cancelled my study early this year), I did the "what does the bible really teach?" book and had started another before I left- I was very clear with the lady I was studing with that I was not ready for baptisim and if I was going to be... I wanted to do things the right way and for the right reasons... It was my honest search and study that lead me to what I believe now (wont go into that- each to his/her own).
I was not rushed (I wouldn't allow that), I dont respond well to directions and I question authority, I trust my gut instincts (they have saved my life and the lives of my children before). So it's not surprising to me now, (now that I know more about the WTBTS and how they opperate), that I was just not a 'follower'..... I cant be taught, I learn by teaching myself.... I taught myself how to cook, how to drive a car, how to play the guitar, how to sew, Im a huge DIY advocate....
That is why they could only manage one shepparding call after I stopped my study- and I asked them this question before they left... how do you tell a friend that they were raised in a cult and all they think they know is a lie???
yep, you heard it.
original sin does not exist, and has never existed.
simply put - man was made for slave labor and the "gods" did not want man to ascend.... for your reading enjoyment i present a few scriptures:.
I mean no disrespect, but how would know if the sumerian gods are lying or not? Just because they may give tours of their spaceships, that wouldn't really prove if they were our space daddies or not would it?
I mean no disrespect, but dude! how would YOU know if Jehooba was lying or not??????? Just because he said so?????? does that really prove anything??????
These Guys.... 
..... are historically just as valid as these guys........ 
As far as written history is concernd!
about a year ago i stopped posting and now i am back.. .
can you remember who i was?.
i will answer any question about my identify with a yes or no.. .
Elivs Has Returned???
ok here we go...im going to put my head on the chopping board (so to speak).
i only came on here to meet new people and have chats etc...yes i am a jw and do love jah.....but im also just an average person who im pretty sure many of you would get on with if we had the time to chat about other things too.... i think some want me to go....sad but yes true.....if you all want me to go then i'll do that..im fine with it as i just want to please people...... i know jb and some say they want to go to my elders,and honestly im fine with that but surely if someone is threatening then they clearly dont want me on here...... time to go???????
or as big brother would say "who goes...you decide"?
Jookbeard- you have a PM 
