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Challenge #9 (Jehovah-Jesus = Expert Opinion) ~ Narkissos / GS / JBeD / Serious JWs / FC
by 4examp in
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when the wt changes its opinion, 7 million jws also (instantly) change opinions.. an incredible example of mind-control & intellectual capitulation / surrender.. anyone out there still swayed by "expert opinion" that contradicts god's word???.

jehovah-jesus' expert opinion is that the holy spirit is a person !!!.

kurios = lord = jehovah (as per wt preference).
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Challenge #8 (Mt. Mystery Solved) ~ Narkissos / GS / JBeD / Serious JWs / FC
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challenge #8 ~ do you agree that mt.28:19 clearly presents the holy spirit as a person?.

some humans believe the holy spirit is just a force -- energy from god the father.. some humans believe the holy spirit is a person -- a paraclete-person -- like jesus.. it is a gross understatement to say jesus knows the holy spirit better than anyone.. jesus commanded his followers to make disciples & baptize them in one name !.

narkissos, in challenge #2, i wrote:.
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Challenge #7 (The ALLOS-Paraclete-Spirit ACTS Like Jesus) ~ Narkissos / GS / JBeD / Serious JWs / FC
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narkissos, in challenge #2 you wrote:.

"i wouldn't push the distinction between allos and heteros too far;.

often the difference is stylistic rather than semantic.".
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List of Greek Neuter Nouns
by 4examp in
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do anyone have a list of greek neuter nouns?.

a comprehensive (even exhaustive) list would be fantastic !.
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Challenge #6 (The Spirit IS Like Jesus) ~ GS / JBeD / Serious JWs
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challenge: do you agree that 10 greek words unite to show that the holy spirit ~ is (a person) ~ like jesus?.

the spirit, our 1helper/advocate/lawyer, is the 2holy, 3everlasting, 4eternal, 5lord, 6god, who is 7truth, & 8raised up christ, & 9makes alive; & we should be 10baptized in his name.. the wt claims: ~ "the scriptures themselves unite to show that god's holy spirit is not a person"(insight p.1019, & aid p.1543).. the scriptures themselves show just the opposite !.

10 greek words prove, that what is true of god the son (&/or god the father) is also true of god the holy spirit.
Challenge #5 (WILL) ~ to Greg Stafford / Jason BeDuhn / Serious JWs / Fred Coulter (CofG)
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personality is expressed, demonstrated & manifested by: emotion, intellect, will.. challenge #5 ~ do you agree scripture proves the holy spirit can / does manifest will?.

1. thelo (g2309, 210x) = "to will, to wish, implying volition & purpose" (vine's, v.1, p.299).

- ja.4:15 ~ you ought to say: "if jehovah wills, we shall live....".
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Challenge #4 (INTELLECT) ~ to Greg Stafford / Jason BeDuhn / Serious JWs / Fred Coulter (CofG)
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personality is expressed, demonstrated & manifested by: emotion, intellect, will.. challenge #4 ~ do you agree scripture proves the holy spirit can / does manifest intellect?.

1. entunkano (g1793,5x) = primarily to fall in with, meet with in order to converse, then to make petition, especially to make intercession, plead with a person.

- rom.8:27 ~ the spirit ... is pleading in accord with god for holy ones.
Challenge #3 (EMOTION) ~ to Greg Stafford / Jason BeDuhn / Serious JWs / Fred Coulter (CofG)
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personality is expressed, demonstrated & manifested by: emotion, intellect, will.. challenge #3 ~ do you agree scripture proves the holy spirit can / does manifest emotion?.

1. agape = love.

- rom.8:39 ~ tes agapes tou theou = the love of the god.
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Challenge #2 (40 Ways) ~ to Greg Stafford / Jason BeDhun / Serious JWs / Fred Coulter (CofG)
by 4examp in
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narkissos wrote: "a better method imo is to consider each work separately and see what "portrait" of the holy spirit it presents.

this calls for literary rather grammatical analysis.

" ~ ok, let's take his approach & examine the clearly documented notion that .
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Public Challenge #1 ~ to Greg Stafford / Jason BeDhun / Serious JWs / Fred Coulter (CofG)
by 4examp in
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"the wt conclusion is intellectually dishonest & deliberately deceitful in that the wt is only telling you 4/5 of the truth.".

my mistake.

the sentence should say "1/5 of the truth".. .