Posts by cattails

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Protect The Flock Letter From 1980

by Bangalore in

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cattails

Getting back to the letter, if someone believes counter doctrines that are diametrically opposed to what the Bible teaches, why would they be associating with Jehovah's Witnesses?

If a person believes all the doctrines taught by orthodox Judaism for example, why would they be in a Kingdom Hall if they reject Jesus as the Messiah?

It's not about being in the Kingdom Hall if they reject Jesus. Many feel trapped in the Kingdom Hall because they have come to know Jesus as the Messiah.

But the WTS claims to be the only Channel to God rather than teach what the Bible evidently says: That Jesus is the one Mediator between God and men (all men).

Unfortunately you don't seem to have eyes to see that or ears to hear it. You're blinded by the traditions of men and maybe one day you'll understand that

some who go to the Kingdom Hall, have to, because otherwise they would be shunned if they revealed they love Jesus more than some man-made organization.

We are the "conscious class," and there are thousands of us. Deal with it. (Matthew 5:3)

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its been a long time coming but i kinda think im finally at the point of no return....... right or wrong, i have spoken to my 'friends' about my new feelings and the fact i no longer believe that this is gods chosen people etc etc... and have already been told that if i was to now celebrate my childs birthdays , her 'truth' friends would not be able to come to sleep again and associate with her... (she is 7).

this is despite the fact they are allowed to play with there non witness friends who live down the road....why??

the explanation is that their daughter would perhaps feel it is ok to do this when it is not... i ask why could they not just simply explain it is not our family's belief anymore (as my husband is with me on my decision), and my response is that it would be difficult to do that as we once were witnesses and now are not so it would confuse her daughter and make her think its ok to do these things now... .

cattails

This is despite the fact they are allowed to play with there non witness friends who live down the road....WHY??

Why? Because it's a damn cult, that's why.

I would also second the suggestion to read Ray Franz's book "In Search of Christian Freedom".

Do what you feel is best for your family.

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J.R.Brown

by Mall Cop in

it's been very quiet concerning him.

anyone have an update, information on his where-abouts and current position?

he use to be the spoke-person for the society in the news media etc.

cattails

JR Brown = TOOL ( of the GB) !!!

He's so like a lawyer, and I HATE lawyers!

Nothing personal against lawyers, it's just what they do.

They can't help it.

JR Brown, it's just what he's been told to do, he's a tool.

He does it willingly, he's a mental slave, several times over

what some of the R&F are in the organization.

That's why the GB trusted him.

But maybe all the dissonance

sent him to the Hospital with

a severe case of Crisis of Conscience.

One can only hope.

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Notes from my Judicial Committee (I was DF'ed at the end)

by notverylikely in

these are the details of my disfellowshipping.

the names and locations have been changed to protect the innocent and the guilty.

my errors are not hidden in an attempt to make me look better, this simply is a presentation of the facts that led up to the disfellowshipping and a re-telling of the contents of the meeting.. .

cattails

I just re-read my post and it does sound judgmental without having the whole story.

It brings up nightmares of growing up in a divided home feeling betrayed by someone you loved as a parent, then having a JW step-dad, and all the feelings that I just didn't know deal with as a kid. Also I might add I've been feeling really in the dumps about some things and Notvery's post just hit the right buttons to set me off.

If apologies are in order, please accept mine for not thinking things through before responding to your post. I immediately jumped to the conclusions brought up from my own experience, I shouldn't have done that and I apologize.

I still think that cheating on someone is just awful and leaves a big mess behind for family involved on both sides of the marriage and if kids are in the middle then even worse.

There's always got to be a better alternative, if I find it I guess I'd become a multi millionaire psychologist author, unfortunately I don't have the answer either.

Peace.

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Kingdom Song Hangover

by Eiben Scrood in

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aside from a song or two at the memorial the last few years, i haven't been exposed to any kingdom songs in a long time (5+ years) yet certain lyrics keep popping into my head quite frequently.. "there is joy in the service for all, it's the work jesus did you'll recall".

"soon there'll be great banqueting in which the meek will share, this good news of the kingdom let us preach".

"on many occasions god spoke long ago by means of his prophets on earth here below".

cattails

I really hate that they changed the wording and melodies of some songs.

It's would have been bearable if they came out with new songs that had fresh melodies, but to change old songs and music is just very disgusting and manipulative.

Then to be reminded to "practice" for the CO's visit and for the Assemblies, so we'll be prepared to sing "well". It DISGUSTS me!

That said, there's melodies that will pop in my mind and are hard to get of my head.

On funny thing happened years ago when I was a teenager.

A very young, little brother was in the row in front and the song that tells of Jesus actions and sacrifice then goes "For this Christ was exalted..."

The little guy liked to sing at the top of his voice, and was a good little reader and commenter at meetings, a little genius, but this time he sang with all his might...

"FOR THISSSS CHRIST WAS EXHAUUUSSSTED!" which made sense since Jesus was mention as doing all these things in the previous stanzas. Right?

And I just couldn't keep it together for the rest of the song, people all around were similng and smirking and trying their best to keep singing along as the little brother kept on singing his heart out.

It was precious.

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The borg and eggshells...

by VampireDCLXV in

"do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.

" ecclesiastes 7:9. have you noticed: .

how so many witlesses get their nose out of joint if you make a wisecrack/joke that's even the slightest bit off color or heretical?

cattails

How easy it is to simply offend and piss them off?

Yeah, good point and I think it's because most JWs have more in common with Pharisees than Christians. That's the fruitage of the JW religion, thanks to the Watchtower and it's many by-laws.

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New elders' manual - a few more details

by sir82 in

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per a recent boe letter:.

-- new manual will be softcover.

-- elders can keep their old elder manual if they choose.

cattails

Brazen = not afraid of a false prophet WTS and its Governing Body

Brazen = not cowering before some good-ol'-boy judicial committee made up of underqualified independent agents.

Brazen = speaking your mind about the nonsense that the WTS prints and the many doctrinal filp-flops they've made a crucial part of the JW religion dogma.

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The fundamental flaw with the WTBTS as "God's Organization"?

by Essan in

there are countless issues that people have with the society and which together have led to many people realizing that it is not what it claims and pretends to be.

these include things like the secret un affiliation, contradictory and hypocritical stances, (malawi vs mexico vs un/ngo), the ever changing blood policy and ever changing doctrine, failed predictions for armageddon etc, etc, etc.. but what is the consensus about what the fundamental flaw is?.

what i mean is, many jw's hear about these various issues and manage to make endless excuses for them, even though this involves gross hypocrisy and excusing the society for things they would never excuse in other religions and which the society itself has ruthless condemned other religions for over almost 100 years.

cattails

I think people fall for all kinds of scams. People are gullible, I sure was.

Some people learn from being ripped off and abused that it isn't any fun and it's harmful to them to get scammed.

Some people who get scammed in turn scam others. The WTS is a pure and simple scam.

They claim to be "God's Channel on Earth" but it is the people who believe this scam that really give this WT Organization its power, its strength in turn to enslave other victims to their scam.

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SALT documentary

by purplesofa in

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i watched this documentary on pbs over the weekend, it's pretty awesome if you can watch.. purps.

synopsisin his search for somewhere i could point my camera into pure space, award-winning photographer murray fredericks began making annual solo camping trips to remote lake eyre and its salt flats in south australia.

these trips have yielded remarkable photos of a boundless, desolate yet beautiful environment where sky, water and land merge.

cattails

Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.

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JW Retirement...

by sabastious in

...doesn't exist.. if you are so old or sick that you can't physically go out in the field ministry then they have the 15 minutes a month provision.. but what about people who have been doing it for 50 years?

what if they are just tired and want to retire?

just a though that popped into my brain while reading a post here.. "wicked" worldly organizations have retirement plans because they want to honor the members that gave them decades of service.... -sab.

cattails

One of the most disheartening things that's ever happened to me as a JW is having people "in the world" make comments about JW's in front of me of how disgraceful it is to force elderly and feeble people to go peddling tracts and magazines for the WTS, usually these people didn't know I was a JW too. It's happened to me several times in different situations, the "world" notices how we treat older ones and what they're made to do. It is a crying shame!