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Brooklyn Layoffs and Halt to Kingdom Hall construction projects

by James Jack in

a good source just just told me that at morning worship today that the governing body announced that a total of 1600 bethelites will be let get go and not transferred to warwich when the last property is sold in brooklyn and all kingdom hall building projects are on hold for at least a year so that all the focus will be on the preaching work.

Heaven

They've probably done the math on the redress being asked by the ARC.

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What I said to an Elder and the matter was dropped.

by Simon Templar in

i decided to tell this small story.. about 25 years ago, we lived in a certain area in the usa and associated with the local congregation there.

coincidently, one of the elders was the assistant congregation servant in a different kh and congregation which i grew up in.

therefore, we knew one another well.

Heaven

Once you base your intellect on a foundation of myth and fantasy, you've crossed the line into delusion, irrationality, and psychosis.

My Mom accused me of doing bad things. When I asked her to tell me what these bad things were, she snarked back at me and said : "Well I don't know what they are! But I know you do them."

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Why did you choose Jehovahs Witnesses?

by vinman in

i'm wondering why ones on this forum initially became jw's.

if you were born in, why did you make it "your own"?

if you became one later, what was your draw and driving force?

Heaven

I'm 3rd gen, born-in, never baptized. I have a very analytical, logical mind which cannot work in a world that accepts myth and fantasy as reality and fact.

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Disfellowshipping by Jehovah’s Witnesses: A Brief History - Great article

by defender of truth in

despite the governing bodys best efforts, members do leave the faith.

the governing body insists there is no valid reason for leaving the religion.

in fact, their brand new brochure, return to jehovah, lists only three reasons why someone might leave the religion: misplaced guilt, being mad at a witness, and being busy with life.. but of course, there are several valid reasons for walking away from the faith, all of which are much more damning than the sanitized reasons the watchtower society lists.

Heaven

Heaven - "...I suspect it works well enough that Botchtower won't stop using it until it becomes illegal."

Vidiot said: Hmph.
As if that would stop them.

Vidiot, you may be correct. However, my statement is based on Geoffrey 'That's not my area of expertise' Jackson's position during the ARC that secular authorities have to make reporting of child rape mandatory in order to force JW's to actually do this. Perhaps laws need to be enacted on all the negative, harmful doctrines of Botchtower.

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Independent living for Senior facilities are thru the roof here. What about your area??

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

we checked on a new senior facility, just to get in your must shell out $200.000.00 and.

don't get that back.

two hundred thousand up front and payments from $2500.00-$5000.00.

Heaven

In Ontario, Canada, the prices are pretty similar for 'private' seniors residences to the ones you quoted in the OP. Prices go up depending on how many services you want. There are also seniors apartments available that aren't that bad.

If you require a nursing home, these are subsidized by the government. A basic room is under $2,000 a month. If you do not have the basic amount, the government further subsidizes on an individual basis.

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Update on sisters threatened with rape

by Xanthippe in

yesterday i had an email from amnesty international about the two sisters in an indian village who were sentenced by the village elders to be raped as a punishment for their brother falling in love with a woman from another hindu caste and eloping with her.. amnesty do a great deal of good work but the real force is individuals who sign the petitions and send letters and emails to political leaders.

people power folks, it really works.

for those of us who signed the petition and the rest of the over 300,000 people who did, meenakshi and her young sister thank you.

Heaven

Awesome! I haven't checked my email yet but I did sign the petition. So glad they weren't harmed.

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Anthony Morris explains how God gives Decrees to man! New video edit.

by Wasanelder Once in

i took the most recent video on "obey" and edited it down to its core.

here tony explains that the decisions of the faithful slave are arrived at "collectively" but are not a "collection" of man made decisions.

it would be comical if it weren't so sad.. tony video.

Heaven

Sooo.... there are no scriptural references to any of that.

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Disfellowshipping by Jehovah’s Witnesses: A Brief History - Great article

by defender of truth in

despite the governing bodys best efforts, members do leave the faith.

the governing body insists there is no valid reason for leaving the religion.

in fact, their brand new brochure, return to jehovah, lists only three reasons why someone might leave the religion: misplaced guilt, being mad at a witness, and being busy with life.. but of course, there are several valid reasons for walking away from the faith, all of which are much more damning than the sanitized reasons the watchtower society lists.

Heaven

Hi dot, thanks for posting this.

Such shunning serves to strengthen and protect the group. Not only does it remove burdensome members, but it can correct deviant behavior in such members because they will long to return to normal relationships with their former associates.

While shunning is a method that works to coerce some people, it doesn't work with me. I have NEVER been anyone who grovels after someone's attention, even from my family. If people don't want me around, I don't come around. So shunning is not a method that works all the time with all people. But I suspect it works well enough that Botchtower won't stop using it until it becomes illegal.

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My story of past time.

by pureginseng0 in

jw
friends

https://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=9&sid=b4046ac11a610a1fe940af598f64351a.

if you visit above web site, you will find my posts of past time!!

thanks.. from south korea.

Heaven

Welcome pureginseng. I am glad you are feeling better. Eating healthfully is very important.

I am one year older than your Mom.

It is quite difficult to realize the belief system we were brought up in is not 100% The Truth. Keeping your family is very important as long as they are loving. My parents were misled and sometimes mean-spirited towards me and my brothers but I knew it was the religion talking and not their authentic selves.

Try to have a plan for your future and your life. Living someone else's plan will not work well... you will not be happy. I think it is a good start to want to learn English.

What are you passionate about?

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1975 all over again!!!

by John Aquila in

wt study edition jan. 2015.

here is the bait:.

as the number of kingdom proclaimers increases and as we near the end of this system of things, there is an urgent need for more facilities.

Heaven

Wow... thx Villiage Idiot. From that video Elaine Riccaboni was basically threatened that taking a blood transfusion would not allow here to survive Armageddon and therefore, she would not have ever lasting life!

So glad she and her husband didn't listen to those clowns.

My former team lead worked with a guy who sold his house and quit his job because 1975 would bring Armageddon. I suspect this man had to get a new job and acquire accomodation again.

The interesting part of all of this is how Botchtower handles their errors. They certainly don't man up to them but rather, repeatedly, blame their members. What a bunch of a-holes!